Commutators with the Dirac Equation

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The discussion focuses on finding the commutator [H, S] for the Dirac equation, where H is the Hamiltonian and S is the spin angular momentum. The Hamiltonian is defined using the gamma matrices and involves the momentum operator. The problem emphasizes that the total angular momentum J, which includes both orbital and spin components, commutes with the Hamiltonian, leading to the relationship [H, S] = -[H, L]. A participant shares their approach of decomposing the matrices and handling the momentum expression, while encountering difficulties with terms that do not cancel. The conversation concludes with a suggestion to use epsilon notation for clarity in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


(Introduction to Elementary Particles, David Griffiths. Ch 7 Problem 7.8 (c))
Find the commutator of H with the spin angular momentum, S=\frac{\hbar}{2}\vec{\Sigma}. In other words find [H,S]

Homework Equations



For the Dirac equation, the Hamiltonian H=c\gamma^0(\vec{\gamma} \cdotp+mc) where p=\frac{\hbar}{i}\vec{\nabla}


Where <br /> <br /> \vec{\gamma} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; \vec{\sigma}\\<br /> -\vec{\sigma} &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> <br /> where \vec{\sigma} are the pauli spin matrices

And <br /> \vec{\Sigma} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \vec{\sigma} &amp; 0\\<br /> 0 &amp; \vec{\sigma}<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> <br />


The Attempt at a Solution




In a previous part of the problem we determined that the commutator for orbit angular momentum L, [H,L]=-i\hbarc\gamma^0 (\gammaxp). The point of the problem is to show that Total Angular Momentum J=L+S commutes with the Hamiltonian, so we know that [H,S] should be -[H,L].

My initial attempt at a solution was to explicitly write out all the matrices and decompose p into it's cartesian coordinates and then hopefully recognize a cross product after factoring out an i. The problem I ran into was that there were a few terms on the backwards diagonal that did not involve i and did not cancel out. If nothing else works I'll triple check that, but I think what is needed is to make the quantized p substitution. But when I do that, I'm at a loss for how to handle the expression for the commutator with that definition of p. It also seems a bit strange to me to have a cross product where the first term in the cross product has three components of 4x4 matrices and the second term is a three component vector.

Can anybody verify which method I should follow or where I made any bad assumptions?

Any bold letters are three component vectors, not four
 
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all you have to do is compute

[\gamma^0 \gamma^i , \Sigma^j ] = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; [\sigma^i ,\sigma^j ] \\ [\sigma^i ,\sigma^j ] &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = 2i \epsilon_{ijk} \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; \sigma^k \\ \sigma^k &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = 2i \epsilon_{ijk} \gamma^0 \gamma^k

i'm sure you can manage the rest like putting in factors and writing it in vector notation
 
Thanks, sgd37, writing it in \epsilon_{ijk} notation definitely cleared things up for me.
 
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