Commute an operator with a constant

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The discussion centers on the commutation of a nonlinear operator A, defined as A |ψ⟩ = ⟨ψ|ψ⟩ |ψ⟩, with a constant b. The commutator [A, b] is evaluated, leading to the expression (b² - b)⟨ψ|ψ⟩ |ψ⟩. Participants clarify that the commutator of an operator with a constant is not necessarily zero due to the nonlinearity of A, challenging the assumption that it should equal zero.

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Homework Statement


Suppose we had an operator A that multiplied a vector by it's norm:
A \mid \psi \rangle = \langle \psi \mid \psi \rangle \mid \psi \rangle
I wanted to know what it's commutator with a constant would be.


Homework Equations


\left[A,B\right] = AB - BA

The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose b is a real number greater than 1, then
\left[A,b\right] \mid \psi \rangle =(Ab-bA)\mid \psi \rangle
=A (b\mid \psi \rangle ) - b (A \mid \psi \rangle ) = (b^2 - b)\langle \psi \mid \psi \rangle \mid \psi \rangle

I'm think the second equality is wrong since I read that the commutator of an operator with a constant should be 0 and the operator A looks nonlinear. But what should be done instead? Thanks
 
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widderjoos said:

Homework Statement


Suppose we had an operator A that multiplied a vector by it's norm:
A \mid \psi \rangle = \langle \psi \mid \psi \rangle \mid \psi \rangle
I wanted to know what it's commutator with a constant would be.


Homework Equations


\left[A,B\right] = AB - BA

The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose b is a real number greater than 1, then
\left[A,b\right] \mid \psi \rangle =(Ab-bA)\mid \psi \rangle
=A (b\mid \psi \rangle ) - b (A \mid \psi \rangle ) = (b^2 - b)\langle \psi \mid \psi \rangle \mid \psi \rangle

I'm think the second equality is wrong since I read that the commutator of an operator with a constant should be 0 and the operator A looks nonlinear. But what should be done instead? Thanks

Just looking quickly at this, shouldn't you have got

\left( b^2-1 \right) \langle \psi | \psi \rangle \left( b | \psi \rangle \right)?
 
latentcorpse said:
Just looking quickly at this, shouldn't you have got

\left( b^2-1 \right) \langle \psi | \psi \rangle \left( b | \psi \rangle \right)?

oh you're right, but it still doesn't equal 0 though unless I'm missing something again
 
How did you get the b^2 ? It shouldn't be there.
 
widderjoos said:
oh you're right, but it still doesn't equal 0 though unless I'm missing something again

Why should it equal to zero? A is non-linear, so there is no guarantee that A (b|\psi\rangle) = b A |\psi\rangle.
 

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