Complex Conjugates in Quadratic Equations: Solving for z

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation z*^2 = 4z, where z is expressed as a + ib and z* is its complex conjugate. Initial attempts involved expressing z and z* in terms of x and iy, leading to complicated quartic terms that seemed unmanageable. Participants suggested using polar form and equating real and imaginary parts to simplify the problem. The final approach successfully derived equations for x and y, leading to a solution that matched the answer in the textbook. The conversation highlights the importance of proper substitution and the effectiveness of different methods in solving complex equations.
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Homework Statement


Solve each equation for z=a+ib
z^{*2}=4z
where z* is the complex conjugate

The Attempt at a Solution


I wrote z and z* in terms of x and iy , and tried solving for x and y, but I get quartic terms for y, it doesn't look like it will boil down, It was like over 2 pages of algera, I don't think that is how it is supposed to be done, I tired some alternative forms of the modulus and it didnt go anywhere, Are my approaches the right way, or do I need some clever substitution, or can it be solved with Eulers formula ?
 
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cragar said:

Homework Statement


Solve each equation for z=a+ib
z^{*2}=4z
where z* is the complex conjugate

The Attempt at a Solution


I wrote z and z* in terms of x and iy , and tried solving for x and y, but I get quartic terms for y, it doesn't look like it will boil down, It was like over 2 pages of algera, I don't think that is how it is supposed to be done, I tired some alternative forms of the modulus and it didnt go anywhere, Are my approaches the right way, or do I need some clever substitution, or can it be solved with Eulers formula ?

Show us the equations in x and y that you actually get. What you are claiming sounds wrong to me.
 
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cragar said:

Homework Statement


Solve each equation for z=a+ib
z^{*2}=4z
where z* is the complex conjugate

The Attempt at a Solution


I wrote z and z* in terms of x and iy , and tried solving for x and y, but I get quartic terms for y, it doesn't look like it will boil down, It was like over 2 pages of algera, I don't think that is how it is supposed to be done, I tired some alternative forms of the modulus and it didnt go anywhere, Are my approaches the right way, or do I need some clever substitution, or can it be solved with Eulers formula ?
If z = a + bi, then ##\bar{z} = a - bi##
If I substitute these into the given equation, I don't get a quartic, but I do get a solution fairly quickly. Please show what you did.
 
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I would automatically use the polar form here.
 
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PeroK said:
I would automatically use the polar form here.
That's a possibility, but it isn't necessary here.
 
oh ok I think I got it
sub in x+iy and x-iy
then equate real and imaginary
Real = x^2+y^2=4x
I am = -2xy=4y
I solved for x then put it in the other equation, then I solved for y,
and I got the answer in the back of the book, thanks for your posts
 
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