Complex Integration Function with multiple poles at origin

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of the function 1/x^N * exp(ix) from negative infinity to positive infinity. The problem is situated within the context of complex integration, particularly involving poles and improper integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Cauchy's integral formula and the definition of contours for integration. There are attempts to evaluate the integral using contour integration, with specific attention to the behavior of the integral as the limits approach infinity. Some participants question the convergence of the integral and the necessity of defining it through limiting operations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to approach the problem, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the convergence of the integral. There are indications of differing interpretations regarding the validity of certain steps taken in the integration process, and some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider limits in the context of improper integrals.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of improper integrals needing to be defined in terms of limits, and some participants express concerns about the legality of operations performed during the integration attempts. The original poster and others have noted that the integral may not converge under certain conditions.

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Hello,

I hope somebody can help me with this one.

Homework Statement


I want to find the integral of 1/x^N*exp(ix) from -inf to inf.


Homework Equations


It is very likely that this can somehow be solved by using Cauchy's integral formula.


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to integrate it by defining a countour as follows:
1. From -R to -r
2. semicircle from -r to +r around the origin from below
3. from r to R
4. Semicircle from +R to -R around the origin from above.

I can show that 4 tends to 0 as R tends to infinity
But I can't somehow evaluate 2:
I get 1/(r*exp(i*theta)^N*exp(i*r*exp(i*theta))r*exp(i*theta)d(theta)
Nothing cancels as nicely as in the case of a simple pole.

Thank you
 
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VVS said:
Hello,

I hope somebody can help me with this one.

Homework Statement


I want to find the integral of 1/x^N*exp(ix) from -inf to inf.


Homework Equations


It is very likely that this can somehow be solved by using Cauchy's integral formula.


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to integrate it by defining a countour as follows:
1. From -R to -r
2. semicircle from -r to +r around the origin from below
3. from r to R
4. Semicircle from +R to -R around the origin from above.

I can show that 4 tends to 0 as R tends to infinity
But I can't somehow evaluate 2:
I get 1/(r*exp(i*theta)^N*exp(i*r*exp(i*theta))r*exp(i*theta)d(theta)
Nothing cancels as nicely as in the case of a simple pole.

Thank you

The integral may not converge. Since you have an improper integral, it needs to be *defined*, typically in terms of some limiting operations such as
[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{e^{ix}}{x^N} \, dx = \lim_{L,U \to \infty,\: a,b \to 0+}<br /> \left[ \int_{-L}^{-a} \frac{e^{ix}}{x^N} \, dx <br /> + \int_{b}^{U} \frac{e^{ix}}{x^N} \, dx \right].[/tex] Does this limit exist in your case?
 
Hey,
Thanks for your help but I had solved the problem now before your answer.
I called In=1/x^n*exp(ix). And I used integration by parts. I chose 1/x^n as the function to be integrated and exp(ix) as the function to be differentiated. That means that I get something proportiional to 1/x^(n-1)exp(ix) which is In-1. So I keep expressing In in terms of In-1, In-2 and so forth till I get to 1/x*exp(ix) which is easily integrated to Pi*i. All other terms vanish because they are of the from 1/x^N-n and the limits are +inf and-inf.
Thank you again for your help
 
VVS said:
Hey,
Thanks for your help but I had solved the problem now before your answer.
I called In=1/x^n*exp(ix). And I used integration by parts. I chose 1/x^n as the function to be integrated and exp(ix) as the function to be differentiated. That means that I get something proportiional to 1/x^(n-1)exp(ix) which is In-1. So I keep expressing In in terms of In-1, In-2 and so forth till I get to 1/x*exp(ix) which is easily integrated to Pi*i. All other terms vanish because they are of the from 1/x^N-n and the limits are +inf and-inf.
Thank you again for your help

I tried to warn you but you refused to listen.
 
Hey, The integrals converge with those limits. So I did listen to you.
 
VVS said:
Hey, The integrals converge with those limits. So I did listen to you.

All you did was to perform a sequence of illegal operations to obtain a wrong answer. I will say it only one more time: you need to look at limits when dealing with improper integrals.
 

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