Complex Matrices and Unit Circles

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The discussion revolves around properties of complex numbers, particularly those on the unit circle, and their relationships with their conjugates. Participants explore various aspects of complex number operations, including sums and products, and how these relate to geometric interpretations on the unit circle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to clarify the nature of the sum of a complex number and its conjugate, questioning whether the results are always real. They also explore the geometric implications of the conjugate of a number on the unit circle and the properties of products and sums of such numbers.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of complex numbers, with participants offering insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have suggested drawing diagrams to aid understanding, and there is a recognition of the need for geometric interpretations. While some participants express uncertainty, others provide affirmations and clarifications regarding the properties discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are encouraged to consider geometric reflections and vector sums, with references to specific theorems and concepts such as De Moivre's theorem. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topics and the potential for multiple interpretations.

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Homework Statement


What can you say about
a. the sum of a complex number and its conjugate?
b. the conjugate of anumber on the unit circle?
c. the product of two numbers on the unit circle?
d. the sum of two numbers on the unit circle?


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The Attempt at a Solution



Here's what I'm thinking:
a. The sum of a complex number and its conjugate is real: (a+bi)+(a-bi)=2a
b. The conjugate of a number on the unit circle LIES ON the unit circle.
c. The product of two numbers on the unit circle also LIES ON the unit circle.
d. The sum of two numbers on the unit circle LIES INSIDE OR OUTSIDE the unit circle.

Am I thinking correctly or am I missing something? I'm unsure on this one. Thanks!
 
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tatianaiistb said:

Homework Statement


What can you say about
a. the sum of a complex number and its conjugate?
b. the conjugate of anumber on the unit circle?
c. the product of two numbers on the unit circle?
d. the sum of two numbers on the unit circle?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Here's what I'm thinking:
a. The sum of a complex number and its conjugate is real: (a+bi)+(a-bi)=2a
b. The conjugate of a number on the unit circle LIES ON the unit circle.
c. The product of two numbers on the unit circle also LIES ON the unit circle.
d. The sum of two numbers on the unit circle LIES INSIDE OR OUTSIDE the unit circle.

Am I thinking correctly or am I missing something? I'm unsure on this one. Thanks!
I don't see anything wrong with what you've said, but they might be looking for more than you've said.

For a) Yes, the sum is real, but notice what you have in your formula.
For b) is it possible to say where on the unit circle the conjugate would be? Let z = √2/2 + i√2/2, which is on the unit circle. Where is [itex]\overline{z}[/itex]?
For c), if z1 and z2 are on the unit circle, what can you say about z1z2?
For d), same question, but about z1 + z2.

The key is to think geometrically - draw some pictures.
 
what about 1 and -1/2 + i√3/2?
 
Hmmm... I drew some pictures as suggested... I'm still unsure, but here's another attempt:

a) I forgot to mention that the sum is real and is twice the real part
b) 90 degree reflection about the origin (for it's imaginary part)?
For parts c and, after I drew the pictures, I still cannot see it. Are there any particular numbers I should be looking at that are easier to see? Thanks!
 
tatianaiistb said:
Hmmm... I drew some pictures as suggested... I'm still unsure, but here's another attempt:

a) I forgot to mention that the sum is real and is twice the real part
b) 90 degree reflection about the origin (for it's imaginary part)?
For parts c and, after I drew the pictures, I still cannot see it. Are there any particular numbers I should be looking at that are easier to see? Thanks!

a) yes
b) what does "a reflection about the origin" even mean? reflections usually involve a line, or a plane, or some higher-dimensional-thingy
c) my advice: google "de moivre's theorem"
d) do you know how to draw a vector sum?
 
for part b, is it sufficient to say 90 deg reflection about the Imaginary axis?

I'll follow your advice and google "de moivre's theorem"

For part d, I haven't done that in a long time, so I'll also have to look it up

thanks
 
degrees normally have to do with rotation (they "twist" or "turn"). think "mirror-like" when thinking about reflections.

to draw a vector sum, make a parallelogram (2 sides of this will be your 2 vectors starting at the origin, the other two sides will be the same two vectors drawn "head to tail"), and draw the diagonal, which represents the vector sum.
 
Another try:

For part b, it'd be a reflection about the real axis?

For part c, the product of two numbers on the unit circle will still have length 1 and will be located at the sum of their angles? e.g., (0+i)(1+0i) = i, where 0+i is located 90deg and 1+0i at 0 deg, so the product will be at 90 deg.

For part d, their sum will still have length 1?
 
For part d, I'm thinking it should be still length 1 half way between the two numbers...
 
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tatianaiistb said:
Another try:

For part b, it'd be a reflection about the real axis?
Yes, and I think this is what they had in mind.
tatianaiistb said:
For part c, the product of two numbers on the unit circle will still have length 1 and will be located at the sum of their angles? e.g., (0+i)(1+0i) = i, where 0+i is located 90deg and 1+0i at 0 deg, so the product will be at 90 deg.
Yes. This is more like what they're looking for, IMO.
tatianaiistb said:
For part d, their sum will still have length 1?

tatianaiistb said:
For part d, I'm thinking it should be still length 1 half way between the two numbers...
Yes.
 
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Thank you for your help!
 

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