Complex numbers: convert the exponential to polar form

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of a complex exponential equation, specifically whether the expression 4e^(-j) is equivalent to 4 ∠-180°. Participants are exploring the relationship between exponential and polar forms of complex numbers.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of the expressions involved, questioning the arguments of the complex numbers and their equivalence. There is also exploration of the notation used for the imaginary unit, with references to engineering conventions.

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The discussion is active, with multiple participants contributing to the clarification of terms and concepts. Some have provided insights into the notation and implications of different arguments in complex numbers, while others are questioning the assumptions regarding equivalence.

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There is a focus on the distinction between radians and degrees, as well as the implications of different representations of the imaginary unit in various fields, particularly engineering.

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Summary:: Hello, my question asks if the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) is equal to 4 ∠-180°. I tried to use polar/rectangular conversions: a+bj=c∠θ with c=(√a^2 +b^2) and θ=tan^(-1)[b/a]

4e^(-j)=4 ∠-180°
c=4, 4=(√a^2 +b^2)
solving for a : a=(√16-b^2)
θ=tan^(-1)[b/a]= -1
b/(√16-b^2)= tan(-1)
b=(√16-b^2)* tan(-1)
b=(√16-b^2)* -1.557
b^2=(16-b^2)(-1.557)^2
solving for b: b=3.365
4=(√a^2 +3.365^2) thus a=2.161
θ=tan^(-1)[-3.365/2.161]= -57.3°
Thus it is false

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ac7597 said:
Summary:: Hello, my question asks if the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) is equal to 4 ∠-180°.

What does this mean?
 
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ac7597 said:
Summary:: Hello, my question asks if the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) is equal to 4 ∠-180°.

Well one has an argument of ##-1##, and the other an argument of ##-\pi##...
 
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
 
ac7597 said:
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
Is ##j = \sqrt{-1}##?
 
ac7597 said:
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
And if two complex numbers have different arguments, which aren't the same modulo ##2\pi##, then are they equal?
PeroK said:
Is ##j = \sqrt{-1}##?
I believe it's an engineering notation
 
Yes j=√-1
 
PeroK said:
Is ##j = \sqrt{-1}##?
Yeah, it's electrical engineering notation. In EE "i" is used for current, so traditionally we use "j" for ##\sqrt{-1}##
 
ac7597 said:
Yes j=√-1
So, effectively, the question asks whether 180 degrees equals 1 radian?
 
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ac7597 said:
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
Are you familiar with the unit circle representation of a complex number...?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/imaginary-axis

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