Complex numbers: convert the exponential to polar form

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The discussion centers on the equivalence of the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) and its polar form 4 ∠-180°. The conclusion reached is that these two representations are not equal due to differing arguments; specifically, 4e^(-j) corresponds to an argument of -1, while 4 ∠-180° has an argument of -π. The calculations involved converting between rectangular and polar forms using the formulas c=(√a^2 +b^2) and θ=tan^(-1)[b/a], ultimately leading to the determination that the values of a and b do not satisfy the equality.

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Summary:: Hello, my question asks if the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) is equal to 4 ∠-180°. I tried to use polar/rectangular conversions: a+bj=c∠θ with c=(√a^2 +b^2) and θ=tan^(-1)[b/a]

4e^(-j)=4 ∠-180°
c=4, 4=(√a^2 +b^2)
solving for a : a=(√16-b^2)
θ=tan^(-1)[b/a]= -1
b/(√16-b^2)= tan(-1)
b=(√16-b^2)* tan(-1)
b=(√16-b^2)* -1.557
b^2=(16-b^2)(-1.557)^2
solving for b: b=3.365
4=(√a^2 +3.365^2) thus a=2.161
θ=tan^(-1)[-3.365/2.161]= -57.3°
Thus it is false

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ac7597 said:
Summary:: Hello, my question asks if the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) is equal to 4 ∠-180°.

What does this mean?
 
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ac7597 said:
Summary:: Hello, my question asks if the complex exponential equation 4e^(-j) is equal to 4 ∠-180°.

Well one has an argument of ##-1##, and the other an argument of ##-\pi##...
 
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
 
ac7597 said:
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
Is ##j = \sqrt{-1}##?
 
ac7597 said:
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
And if two complex numbers have different arguments, which aren't the same modulo ##2\pi##, then are they equal?
PeroK said:
Is ##j = \sqrt{-1}##?
I believe it's an engineering notation
 
Yes j=√-1
 
PeroK said:
Is ##j = \sqrt{-1}##?
Yeah, it's electrical engineering notation. In EE "i" is used for current, so traditionally we use "j" for ##\sqrt{-1}##
 
ac7597 said:
Yes j=√-1
So, effectively, the question asks whether 180 degrees equals 1 radian?
 
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ac7597 said:
Yes, the question is rather 4e^(-1*j) = 4 ∠-180° ?
Are you familiar with the unit circle representation of a complex number...?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/imaginary-axis

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