Complex Numbers - Understanding and Working with z = x + iy and z^2 = x^2 + y^2

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The discussion revolves around the properties and interpretations of complex numbers, specifically focusing on the expression z = x + iy and its square, z^2. Participants are exploring different definitions and calculations related to squaring complex numbers.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the distinction between squaring a complex number and multiplying it by its conjugate. There are attempts to clarify the correct expression for z^2 and its implications in different fields, such as mathematics and physics.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the calculations of z^2. Some guidance has been offered on the terminology and proper notation, although there is no explicit consensus on the definitions being debated.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the terminology used in different fields, particularly between mathematics and physics. Participants are also addressing potential misunderstandings about the operations involving complex numbers.

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hi,








let
z=x+iy

z^2=z.zpar=(x+iy)(x-iy)=x^2+y^2
or
z^2=(x+iy)(x+iy)=(x^2-y^2)
 
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It very much depends on your field. Generally in mathematics when one says the 'square' of a complex number one means literally multiplication by itself as in your latter example. However, physicists working in QM often refer to the multiplication of a complex number by it's complex conjugate as 'squaring' it, as for your former example.
 
Hootenanny said:
It very much depends on your field. Generally in mathematics when one says the 'square' of a complex number one means literally multiplication by itself as in your latter example. However, physicists working in QM often refer to the multiplication of a complex number by it's complex conjugate as 'squaring' it, as for your former example.

Thank you for you on your response
And on the new information for me
 
m_s_a said:
hi,








let
z=x+iy

z^2=z.zpar=(x+iy)(x-iy)=x^2+y^2
or
z^2=(x+iy)(x+iy)=(x^2-y^2)

Take note that (x+iy)(x+iy) is NOT equal to x^2-y^2. It's x^2-y^2+2ixy. Your first 'z^2' is the modulus (size) of the complex number squared. The second is the complex function z*z. They are quite different. A physicist who refers to the first operation as 'squaring' is being pretty sloppy. The proper term is 'modulus squared' and the proper notation is |z|^2.
 
Dick said:
Take note that (x+iy)(x+iy) is NOT equal to x^2-y^2. It's x^2-y^2+2ixy.
Nice catch Dick, didn't even see it :redface:
 
Thank you for you on the note
And thank you on the information that you presented
But this is a question in one of the issues:confused:
Thanks
 
m_s_a said:
But this is a question in one of the issues:confused:
Then I would suggest that,

[tex]z^2 = x^2 +2ixy - y^2[/tex]
 
Hootenanny said:
Then I would suggest that,

[tex]z^2 = x^2 +2ixy - y^2[/tex]

Thank you a lot
 

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