Complexification for finding a particular solution

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The discussion revolves around finding a particular solution to the differential equation y'' + 4y = 4sec(2t). Participants explore different methods for solving the equation, including complexification and variation of parameters, while addressing the implications of these approaches.

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  • One participant proposes using complexification to find the particular solution, suggesting that the equation can be transformed into p(D)y = 4exp(-2ti).
  • Another participant challenges the assumption that Re[1/f] = 1/Re[f], indicating that this is not a valid approach and suggests that variation of parameters is a more suitable method for this problem.
  • A third participant questions whether complexification is only effective for functions involving sines and cosines.
  • Another participant clarifies that the method of complexification used is appropriate only for forcing terms that can be annihilated by a differentiation operator with constant coefficients, which typically includes sums and products of sine, cosine, and exponential functions.

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Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of complexification for this problem, with some advocating for variation of parameters instead. There is no consensus on the best approach to take.

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The discussion highlights limitations in the assumptions made regarding complexification and its applicability to the given differential equation. The validity of certain mathematical identities is also questioned.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in differential equations, particularly those exploring various methods for finding particular solutions.

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So I have this:

y'' + 4 y = 4 sec(2 t).

which translates to

p(D)y=4sec(2t)

where

p(D)=D^2+4

where D is a differential operatior

I know i have two choices for this, which is either looking for the particular solution through variable parameters which involved the winkonsian and some integrals, or just complexifying

if i complexify

i get p(D)y=4exp(-2ti) because cos(2t) is the real part of this exponential

because the equation is linear I can do this

y_p=4exp(-2ti)/(p(-2i))

where y_p is the particular solution.

after a lot of algebra, i find that the real part is

y_p=(-16cos(-2t)-32sin(-2t))/80

which doesn't look like all like the correct answer, which has a logarithm which means there is probably some integration involved. why does not this work?

this is the answer btw:

y=4 * [2^(-2)cos(2*t)ln( abs(cos(2*t))) + t*2^(-1)*sin(2 t)]
 
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if I complexify

I get p(D)y=4/[exp(2ti)+exp(-2ti)]

You appear assume that
Re[1/f]=1/Re[f]
which is untrue
infact
Re[1/exp(2i t)]=cos(2 t)
1/Re[exp(2i t)]=sec(2 t)

Variation of parameters is better for this problem.
 
thanks a lot! so it means that complexfication is only efficient if i have sines and cosines?
 
It depends what you mean by complexification. You were using it to try to solve the equation by undetermined coefficients, that can only work when the forcing term can be annihilated by a differentiation operator with constant coefficients. Such functions are sums and products of sin cos and exp.
 

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