Compound Angles Proof: Proven or Unproven?

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The discussion centers on the claim from a mathematics textbook that the function f(θ) = sin(kθ) has a period of 2π/k for all values of k, which is stated as not being generally proven. Participants express confusion over the contradiction between the claim's intuitive truth and the lack of formal proof. It is suggested that the authors may be encouraging readers to explore and develop their own proofs rather than providing them outright. The conversation highlights the common practice in textbooks of presenting certain mathematical truths without detailed justification, often relying on the reader's acceptance. Overall, the topic raises questions about the balance between conjecture and proof in mathematical education.
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Hello,

simple question.

My textbook (Bostock and Chandler - Pure Mathematics 1) says something that really surprises me.

When the same investigation is carried out on f(\theta) \equiv sin3\theta we find that the function is cyclic with a period of \frac{2\pi}{3} so that 3 complete cycles occur between 0 and 2\pi. It seems likely (Although it has not been generally proved) that the graph of the function f(\theta) \equiv sink\theta is a sine wave with a period of \frac{2\pi}{k} and a frequency k times that of f(\theta) \equiv sin\theta

The bolded part is what shocked me, it seems like such a trivial statement and intuitively true. My book was first published in 1978, so perhaps it is out of date.

It goes on to say;

These properties are, in fact, valid for all values of k

Which seems contradictory... So, has or has not this idea been proven true?

Thanks!
 
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It is trivially obvious, why are you puzzled? What is contradictory? I presume the statement is for k a positive integer.
 
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It is trivially obvious, why are you puzzled? What is contradictory? I presume the statement is for k a positive integer.

I mean that it seems trivial, so I was surprised that it had not been proven true. By contradictory, I mean, the book says the idea is not generally proven but goes on to say that it is true for all values of k.

It is not explicitly stated in my textbook what is meant by k, but all related questions deal with positive numbers, fractions and integers.
 
kθ = 2π, therefore θ =2π/k. As long as k is an integer, what else is needed?
 
Perhaps you're taking the context of the bolded statement to be total human mathematical development, rather than the mathematical development up to that point in the text?
 
I agree with Integrand. It sounds like the textbook authors want to make it clear that they are not providing a proof. They are distinguishing a conjecture making moment. If the text takes an investigation approach, then it probably encourages readers to do similar activities to develop conjectures and then better proofs.

The part that you say is contradictory is what I would call Proof by Authority. These are moments in textbooks where the author just asks the reader to accept the math without other justifications. This is often necessary because a proof requires advanced mathematics or may take too long. There's a lot of this in algebra texts: fractional exponents, calculating determinants, formulae of SA and volume of spheres. Typically the reader is just given these rules.
 
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