Compton Scattering Concept Question

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The discussion centers around the concept of Compton scattering, specifically addressing the presence of a y-component of momentum after the collision between a photon and an electron. Participants explore the implications of particle behavior, wave-particle duality, and the nature of momentum in this context.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the origin of the y-component of momentum after the collision, noting that diagrams typically align the photon and electron along the x-axis.
  • Another participant asserts that electrons and photons are not point particles, suggesting that quantum mechanics is necessary to understand their interactions.
  • A different participant explains that the total momentum in the y-direction remains zero after the collision, drawing an analogy to billiard balls colliding and moving off in different directions.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the electron and photon, with one participant stating that the electron is considered point-like and has no internal structure, while the photon exhibits wave-particle duality.
  • Participants engage in a light-hearted exchange regarding the concept of wave-particle duality, clarifying that all particles, including electrons, exhibit both wave and particle behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of particles and the implications of wave-particle duality. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the y-component of momentum or the characterization of particles involved in Compton scattering.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the dependence of particle behavior on the kind and energy of the interaction, indicating that the discussion may involve assumptions about the nature of particles that are not fully explored.

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Hi,

I had an issue with compton scattering that I never received a satisfactory answer for. My issue was that after the collision, there exists a y component of momentum... but all diagrams of the compton effect align the axis center to center from the photon to the electron and on top of that each are dimensionless point particles.

So where does this y-component come from? Does the wave nature of the photon give the particle some y component of momentum or is it all in the x direction?

Hope i was clear enough...thanks in advance
 
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An electron and a photon are not point particles. If they were, the classical description would be eneough, instead you know that QM is required.
Also note that the concept "being a point particle" depends on the kind and energy of the interaction too.
 
If I understand you correctly you wonder why there can be a y-component of the momentum after the collision when the incident photon only has momentum in the x-direction.

The answer is that the total momentum in the y-direction after the collision is the same as before, zero. The momenta of the electron and the photon together add up to zero after the collision. This is essentialy analogous to one billiard ball hitting another - the two balls may go off in different directions (i.e. not straight forward) after the collision even though the incoming ball only travels in the 'straight forward'-direction. Was that answer to your question?

Also, as far as we know today, the electron is point-like and has no internal structure (of course this might change with future theories). The photon on the other hand is a different story. It shows a so called wave-particle duality, behaving both as a particle and a wave.
 
Thanks for your answers guys!
 
kloptok said:
Also, as far as we know today, the electron is point-like and has no internal structure (of course this might change with future theories). The photon on the other hand is a different story. It shows a so called wave-particle duality, behaving both as a particle and a wave.
Only the photon has wave-particle duality? :smile:
 
lightarrow said:
Only the photon has wave-particle duality? :smile:

Dang, you got me! :blushing: The thing was that I got the impression that the tread opener only thought of the photon as a point particle. But sure, the electron, as every particle, shows particle as well as wave behavior.
 
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