Compute Integral Using Jacobian Det in Polar Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around determining the Jacobian determinant for polar coordinates and its application in computing an integral. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the results obtained when mapping coordinates in different orders.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the mapping of coordinates from (x,y) to (theta, r) and (r, theta), questioning why different mappings yield different signs for the Jacobian determinant. There is also a discussion about the implications of changing the limits of integration based on the mapping.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the calculations of the Jacobian determinant. Some have provided their calculations, while others are asking for more details to understand the original poster's confusion.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential discrepancies in the results based on the order of mapping and the limits of integration, indicating that assumptions about the mapping process may need to be revisited.

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Homework Statement


Determine the Jacobian determinant for "polar" coordinates and use that to compute the intergral . . . Blah blah blah that's not the point.


Homework Equations



(x,y) maps by T to (r, theta) or (theta, r) detT = jacobian

The Attempt at a Solution



Anyways, first I treated it as a map from (x,y) to (theta, r) and I got the answer in the book but negative and then I did it the other way and I got the answer in the book. Why is this and if I differ how I map the function then I supposed to integrate the opposite way (like from pi to 0 instead of from 0 to pi)
 
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I have no idea what you are saying or what question you are asking. Please show exactly what you did in calculating the Jacobian.
 
T: (x,y) to (theta, r) x = rcostheta y = rsintheta derivative matrix of T: t11 = -rsintheta t12 = costheta t21 = rcostheta t22 = sintheta detT = -r(sintheta)(squared) - r(costheta)(squared) = -r but the Jacobian should just be r and if you map T: (x,y) to (r, theta) instead of what I did then it works out to be r, why is this.
 
Mamooie312 said:
T: (x,y) to (theta, r) x = rcostheta y = rsintheta derivative matrix of T: t11 = -rsintheta t12 = costheta t21 = rcostheta t22 = sintheta detT = -r(sintheta)(squared) - r(costheta)(squared) = -r but the Jacobian should just be r and if you map T: (x,y) to (r, theta) instead of what I did then it works out to be r, why is this.

take your matrix and do the determinant.

rsin2(x) + rcos2(x) is what you'll get
 

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