Computing semimajor axis from ecentricity and period

In summary, the conversation discusses the task of computing the semimajor axis of Halley's Comet, given its orbital eccentricity, period, gravitational constant, and solar mass. The equation used for this calculation is Kepler's third law, which relates the angular momentum, reduced mass, and semimajor axis of an orbit. However, the result obtained does not match the expected value for Halley's Comet, suggesting an error in the calculation. The error is found to be an extra factor of (1-e^2)^{-1/3} in the final result, which cancels out when substituting in the correct values. The conversation then shifts to discussing whether it is possible to solve for the semimajor axis using only the
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Gary Roach
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Homework Statement


Compute the semimajor axes "a" of Halley's Comet.
Given:
orbital eccentricity e = 0.9673
period P =76 days (2.39674E9 seconds)
Gravitational Constant G = 6.67428E-11
solar mass M = 1.9891E30 Kg.

Also used in equations are:
L = angular momentum of center of mass
[tex]\mu[/tex] = reduced mass
r = distance from focus to comet mass
b= semiminor axis of elipse.

Homework Equations


I used:

[tex]
\frac{dA}{dt} = \frac{L}{2\mu} = \frac{A}{P}
[/tex]

[tex] A=\pi a b [/tex]

[tex] b^2=a^2(1-e^2) [/tex]

[tex] L=\mu\sqrt{GMa(1-e^2)}[/tex] from text

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] L=\frac{2\pi \mu a^2 (1-e^2)}{P} = \mu \sqrt{GMa(1-e^2}[/tex]

[tex] a = \sqrt[1/3]{\frac{GMP^2}{4\pi^2 (1-e^2)}} [/tex]

Unfortunately "a" turns out to be 6.6964E12 meters = 44.76 AU .
Since the data is for Halley's Comet, a should be 17.8 AU

Where did I go wrong
 
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Looks like you've got an extra factor of [itex](1-\epsilon^2)^{-1/3}[/itex] in your final result...I think the [itex]1-\epsilon^2[/itex] you get from [itex]b^2=a^2(1-\epsilon^2)[/itex] should cancel with the [itex]1-\epsilon^2[/itex] you get from [itex]L=\mu\sqrt{GMa(1-\epsilon^2)}[/itex] when you substitute everything in properly...
 
  • #3
The eccentricity is not involved in Kepler's third law, suggesting you made an error. And you did. What is the area of an ellipse?
 
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OK Stupid error. Its not the first time. After getting that straightened out, on rereading the problem I wonder if it is possible to solve for the semimajor axis "a" with only the eccentricity, period and gravitational constant.(ie no solar mass) . Any comments?

Thanks for your help

Gary
 

1. What is the formula for computing the semimajor axis from eccentricity and period?

The formula is: a = (p^2GM)/(4π^2e^2), where a is the semimajor axis, p is the period, G is the gravitational constant, and e is the eccentricity.

2. How do you determine the units for the semimajor axis when using this formula?

The units for the semimajor axis will depend on the units used for the other variables in the formula. For example, if the period is given in seconds and the gravitational constant is in m^3/kg/s^2, then the semimajor axis will be in meters.

3. Can this formula be used for any type of orbit?

Yes, this formula can be used for any type of orbit as long as the eccentricity and period are known.

4. How does changing the eccentricity or period affect the computed semimajor axis?

As the eccentricity increases, the semimajor axis will decrease, meaning the orbit will become more elliptical. As the period increases, the semimajor axis will also increase, meaning the orbit will become wider.

5. Are there any assumptions or limitations when using this formula?

This formula assumes a two-body system and does not account for any external forces or perturbations. It also assumes a circular orbit, so it may not be as accurate for highly elliptical orbits.

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