Conceptual Question on General Relativity

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The discussion centers on a thought experiment illustrating the implications of general relativity through the analogy of ants measuring the circumference of a merry-go-round. When observed from a relativistic perspective, the ants experience Lorentz contraction in the tangential direction, leading to a discrepancy in their calculation of pi. The ants' measuring rods along the circumference contract, while those measuring the diameter do not, resulting in an altered ratio. This highlights the effects of curvature in space and the relativity of measurements based on the observer's frame of reference.

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  • Understanding of general relativity principles
  • Familiarity with Lorentz contraction
  • Knowledge of two-dimensional geometry
  • Concept of frame of reference in physics
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Homework Statement


A thought experiment. Imagine ants living on a merry-goround,
which is their two-dimensional world. From measurements
on small circles they are thoroughly familiar
with the number pi. When they measure the circumference
of their world, and divide it by the diameter, they
expect to calculate the number pi=3.14159. . . . We
see the merry-go-round turning at relativistic speed.
From our point of view, the ants’ measuring rods on the
circumference are experiencing Lorentz contraction in
the tangential direction; hence the ants will need some
extra rods to fill that entire distance. The rods measuring
the diameter, however, do not contract, because their
motion is perpendicular to their lengths. As a result, the
computed ratio does not agree with the number . If you
were an ant, you would say that the rest of the universe is
spinning in circles, and your disk is stationary. What possible
explanation can you then give for the discrepancy,
in view of the general theory of relativity?

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My friends and I have tried to answer this problem using the curvature of space. We tried to explain how the outer edges of the merry-go-round bend inward from an observer outside the merry-go-round and so the diameter calculated from the measure of the circumference will be different than measure the diameter directly. However, we think the entire outside of the merry-go-round will bend inwards equally.
 
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the ants that are moving around at relativistic speed, see their x and y-axis rotated with respect to the stationary axis, such that the ruler extends more after going around by 2 pi radians in the moving frame than 2 pi in the stationary frame
 

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