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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of condensation on the outside of cold glasses of water, primarily driven by the concepts of dew point, relative humidity, and saturated vapor pressure. Participants clarify that when warm, humid air contacts a cold surface, such as a glass, the air cools and can no longer hold its moisture, resulting in condensation. The dew point is identified as the critical temperature at which air becomes saturated with moisture, leading to the formation of water droplets on the glass surface. This process is fundamentally linked to the air's capacity to hold moisture, particularly in humid conditions.

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On a warm day, why do droplets of water appear on the outside of a cold glass of water? I don't really understand partial pressure and saturated vapour pressure, but I know it has something to do with this. Like when partial pressure = SVP, the water will boil, but at what point will water vapour condense...?
 
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You would want to look up dew point.
And relative humidity is applicable also.
Come back with a few more questions if you need to.
 
My understanding is that warm air can hold more water vapor than cold air. So if you have warm air with a lot of water vapor getting cooled (perhaps by a cold glass) to a temperature where it cannot hold as much water, it has to dump the excess water out. Onto the glass, in this case.
 
I agree with Lsos.
But I always thought that the cold glass would cool down the gas (air) around it into liquid form, thus creating the water droplets on the outside of the glass.
 
Since your house is always at room temperature, this has nothing to do with the capacity of the air to hold moisture. It is all about humidity. When the air is more humid and the dew point is above the surface temperature of the glass, dew will form. That's basically the definition of "dew point".
 
russ_watters said:
Since your house is always at room temperature, this has nothing to do with the capacity of the air to hold moisture. It is all about humidity. When the air is more humid and the dew point is above the surface temperature of the glass, dew will form. That's basically the definition of "dew point".

Isn't dew point the point where air cannot hold any more moisture (water-to-air saturation temperature)...in which case it has everything to do with the capacity of the air to hold moisture?

I just glanced at the Wikipedia explanation at dew point and it seems to exactly fit what I described...

If the dew point is below the room temperature in your house, for example, it means that the air CAN hold more water. However, if the cold glass cools the air to below that dew point, then that colder air CANNOT hold more water. Indeed, it already has too much, and it gets rid of it.
 
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Lsos said:
Isn't dew point the point where air cannot hold any more moisture (water-to-air saturation temperature)...in which case it has everything to do with the capacity of the air to hold moisture?
Yes, your explanation is correct, but I was trying to convey to the OP that his first sentence, which starts off "On a warm day..." was off the mark. I probably could have done it better.
 

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