Confused about a charge going into a magnetic field?

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A charged particle moving through a magnetic field experiences a force determined by the Right Hand Rule, which indicates the direction of the force based on the charge and motion. For a positive charge, like a proton, the force is directed out of the page when moving along the x-axis with an upward magnetic field. In contrast, for a negatively charged particle, such as an electron, the force direction is reversed, leading to confusion about the application of the Right Hand Rule. The discussion highlights that the Right Hand Rule is associated with the cross product, which is used to determine the resultant vector from two input vectors. Ultimately, the Left Hand Rule is suggested as a valid method for determining force direction for negative charges, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying these rules.
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Say for instance a + charged particle is moving right along the x-axis. Then it will encounter a magnetic field with the direction pointing up. Using the Right hand rule, the force acting on that particle will be going out of the page to me so to speak.

But what if it was an electron with a negative charge? Will it still follow that right hand rule? or will it do the opposite and go into the page? I think it would still be out of the page, but is that right logic?
 
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I have always been wondering why they invent some thing called left hand rule and right hand rule for this and that. Isn't there something called cross product?
 
Yes, the right hand rule is part of the cross product. A cross product takes two vectors and returns a 3rd vector which is perpendicular to the previous two. But there are two such vectors, one determined by the left hand rule and one determined by the right hand rule. The cross product takes the one determined by the right hand rule. So the cross product implies the right hand rule.
 
netheril96 said:
I have always been wondering why they invent some thing called left hand rule and right hand rule for this and that. Isn't there something called cross product?

The Left and Right hand rules are for people who would run a mile at the mention of Vector Products. i.e School Pupils and the like.

The Left Hand rule just HAS to work for electron beams. Why should it not (if you are applying it correctly)?
 
It may be shown from the equations of electromagnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860’s, that the speed of light in the vacuum of free space is related to electric permittivity (ϵ) and magnetic permeability (μ) by the equation: c=1/√( μ ϵ ) . This value is a constant for the vacuum of free space and is independent of the motion of the observer. It was this fact, in part, that led Albert Einstein to Special Relativity.

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