Confused about time dilation and cosmic speed limit

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The discussion centers on the cosmic speed limit, which is defined by the speed of light, and the implications of time dilation. Participants express confusion regarding why this speed limit exists and how it relates to the mass of objects as they approach light speed. The conversation emphasizes that inquiries into the fundamental reasons behind physical laws often veer into philosophical territory, lacking definitive scientific answers. For a deeper understanding, the recommended resource is "Spacetime Physics" by Taylor & Wheeler, which provides a solid foundation in relativity.

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Time dilation sounds really weird, can i assume it has a logical explanation?
 
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I am still confused about the cosmic speed limit. It kinda reminds me of how in video games coders make restrictions on physical aspects as to not break the game. I heard that if an object with matter would go the speed of light, the universe would explode, and I feel like a computer would do the same. I know I'm not well versed in this, but it's all so eerily similar to a video game that I was hoping there was a more logical explanation to this too. Also, why is the speed limit the same as the speed of light? This also reminds me of a coder, the last thing necessary for human life is the fastest you can go, because there's no need to go any faster.

Sources: https://www.space.com/speed-of-light-properties-explained.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...eed-limit-and-it-isnt-the-speed-of-light/amp/

https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mo...-light-because-we-have-not-tried-hard-enough/
 
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Sciencelad2798 said:
...why is the speed limit the same as the speed of light?

https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mo...-light-because-we-have-not-tried-hard-enough/

Physics looks to discover the patterns, nuances and ramifications of the laws of nature. Trying to answer the "why" questions is not part of that. We have plenty of unanswered questions about the standard models, and those will keep us occupied for many years to come.

Asking "why" the laws (rules) of physics are as they are is ultimately a philosophical (or religious) exercise which will never have a clear, final answer. If you say God created the universe that way, then you might logically ask why God chose to do it that way and not some other way. Ultimately, it is pure speculation... without any facts or data to support one answer over another. I would not call it science.
 
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phinds said:
I read some of those posts and had two questions that weren't quite answered in it:

1. The OP mentions that the speed limit is kinda like an invisible hand that just stops things from traveling faster, and that the mass of an object keeps going higher and higher until it just stops. This was kinda my question too, but no one really adressed it there, was hoping you might have an explanation.

2. Someone mentioned its possible the universe "selected" this speed, and I was confused on what this meant

Edit: these two articles kinda confused me too, mostly the part about how the sun we see is 8 minutes behind and how if it "disappeared", we wouldn't know until 8 minutes later. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/physics-speed-light-stop-trapping-particles-inside-crystals-796385?amp=1

https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...w-do-photons-experience-time/?sh=46a619df278d



 
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Sciencelad2798 said:
these two articles
Are not valid sources for learning the actual physics. You have two threads now in two different forums based on questions prompted by you not reading valid sources. Stop reading pop science articles and start learning physics from textbooks and peer-reviewed papers. For relativity, Taylor & Wheeler's Spacetime Physics is an excellent introduction.

Once you have read some actual textbooks or peer-reviewed papers, you are welcome to ask questions if you don't understand things from those sources.

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