Confusion regarding Interference of light

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of light interference, exploring why interference patterns are not commonly observed in everyday life and addressing questions regarding the coherence of light sources and the interference of microwave signals from cellphones. The scope includes theoretical considerations of optics and practical implications of wave behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why interference patterns are not visible in everyday light, suggesting that it may imply all waves are in phase.
  • Another participant explains that proper interference patterns require coherent light from the same source, noting that light from different sources lacks a constant phase relationship.
  • A participant proposes a scenario involving a monochromatic light source in a room with white walls, questioning whether interference would be observed from reflections.
  • There is a clarification about the conditions necessary for observing stable interference patterns, emphasizing the need for specific setups.
  • One participant asserts that microwaves from cellphones do interfere, but the design of receivers allows for the selection of specific frequencies, preventing observable interference.
  • Another participant distinguishes between monochromatic light and coherent light, stating that coherence typically requires a laser or similar source.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the coherence of monochromatic light and the conditions necessary for observing interference patterns. There is no consensus on the visibility of interference in practical scenarios or the implications of microwave interference in communication technologies.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about coherence, the nature of reflections, and the design of communication devices, which may affect the discussion's conclusions.

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I have been reading optics for the past few months.
If light has the property of interference, when I look around, why don't I see any interference patterns.
does it mean all the waves around me are in phase ?
Another question is, why don't Cellphone signals interfere with each other ? they are mostly microwaves within a range of frequencies. Should'nt they interfere ?
 
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I'm not expert on the 2nd part, so I'll just stick to the first question. A proper interference pattern is only observed with light from the same source. Light all around you is not coherent (i.e. it does not maintain a constant phase relationship). Two waves from different sources may be in phase at one instant but out of phase in the next nanosecond. The human eye cannot cope with such rapid changes, so no observable interference pattern is produced. (It would be pretty disastrous if it did :P )
 
Lol! Then. If I sit in a room with white walls. And I turn on a monochromatic source ? Since they are all coherent now.
Will I see interference after they reflect from the walls ?
 
Do you mean walls which are perfect reflectors (no absorption, hypothetical of course)?
 
Sab95 said:
Lol! Then. If I sit in a room with white walls. And I turn on a monochromatic source ? Since they are all coherent now.
Will I see interference after they reflect from the walls ?
Who are "they"? You mean waves reflected by different walls?

Interference simply means superposition of two (or more) waves. It happens every time you have more than one wave in the same volume of space.
In order to see a pattern of maxima and minima some extra conditions must be satisfied. They have to do with ensuring a pattern that is stable enough to be observed with your instrument (it may be your eye).

In the case of cell phones, the microwaves do interfere, of course. And not only the ones used for cell phones, the radio waves and so on.
But yo still pick up only one radio station at a time because your receptor is designed to reject all frequencies but one (actually a narrow range of frequencies) which is amplified and decoded.
 
Light derived from the same source (or same region of a large source) and traveling by different routes to the same point can be coherent, but even then, you're up against the very small wavelength (~0.5 \mu \text{m}), which implies that, except in special set-ups (such as Young's), the points of constructive and destructive interference) are too close together to be noticed.
 
Monochromatic is not coherent. It only means they are of the same wavelength ( color) ... they are not in phase. The most common way to create coherent light is with a laser. However there are other types of waves where the interference can be observed.
 

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