Conservaion of Angular Momentum and Center of Mass

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the conservation of angular momentum and the calculation of angular speed for a system of two pucks colliding and sticking together. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics and center of mass calculations.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the center of mass and angular momentum for a two-puck system. There is a focus on applying the parallel axis theorem to find the moment of inertia for the combined system. Questions arise regarding the application of the theorem and the conceptual understanding of the moment of inertia in this context.

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Some participants have provided insights into using the parallel axis theorem and the moment of inertia calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of applying these concepts to a system of glued pucks, and some participants express their understanding after receiving guidance.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. The discussion includes attempts to clarify definitions and assumptions related to the moment of inertia and angular momentum.

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Homework Statement



A puck with a mass of 0.08 kg and a radius of 0.04 m slides along an air table at a speed of 1.5 m/s. It makes a glancing collision with a second puck at rest having a radius of 0.06 m and a mass of 0.12 kg such that their rims just touch. Because their rims are coated with instant-acting glue, the pucks stick together and spin after the collision.

a) What is the angular momentum of the system relative to the center of mass?

b) What is the angular speed about the center of mass?


Homework Equations



Center of Mass equation

Angular momentum equation

Conservation of angular momentum equation


The Attempt at a Solution



First I found the center of mass of the two puck system for the y-axis relative to the smaller pucks' center of mass.

CM ( j or y-axis ) = [(0.08 kg * 0 m) + (0.12 kg * 0.1 m)] / 0.2 kg = 0.06 m

Modeling the 2 puck system as a non rigid body I plugged the center of mass into the angular momentum equation for the initial situation. The larger puck is stationary so has an angular momentum of zero.

L (total sum) = m * r * v (total sum) = 0.06 m * 0.08 kg * 1.5 m/s = 7.2 x 10^-3 kg * m/s^2

My problem is that I cannot conceptually understand how I am suppose to find the angular speed by using the moment of inertia for this situation. In other words I am having trouble finding a solution to the moment of inertia for the two puck system.

I = 1/2 M R^2 for a solid cylinder and MR^2 for a particle

Can anyone help?
 
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I found that the answer lies in using the parallel axis theorem. I am still not sure how to applies this as there are two objects glued together.

I = Icm + MD^2

Icm = Moment of Inertia for Center of Mass

What I don't understand is how I am suppose to apply the parallel axis theorem in this situation.
 
Benkyou said:
I found that the answer lies in using the parallel axis theorem. I am still not sure how to applies this as there are two objects glued together.

I = Icm + MD^2

Icm = Moment of Inertia for Center of Mass

What I don't understand is how I am suppose to apply the parallel axis theorem in this situation.

To apply the || axis theorem, you are going to figure it about the center of mass. The Moment of inertia of each puck then 1/2mr² - offset by their distances from the center of mass - md² - looks like what is called for here. (i.e. .08*(.06)² for the smaller and similarly for the larger.)
 
Thanks I got it. Appreciate the help.


Ip = (1/2 * 0.12 kg * .06m^2) + (12 kg * .04m ^2) + (1/2 * 0.08 kg * 0.04m^2) + (0.08 * 0.06m^2)

And from the moment of inertia of the pucks I can plug in and get the angular momentum

Thanks again
 

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