Conservation of Angular Momentum Using the Hamiltonian

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The discussion centers on the conservation of angular momentum using the Hamiltonian framework in classical mechanics. The Hamiltonian is defined as H = 1/(2m) * |p^2| - V(r), where p represents momentum and V(r) is the potential energy. The key conclusion is that the angular momentum vector L = r x p is conserved, demonstrated by the equation dL/dt = {L,H} = 0. Participants emphasize the need to compute the Poisson bracket {L,H} to prove this conservation law.

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Homework Statement


The Hamiltonian for a particle mass m, moving in a central force field is given as: H = 1/(2m) * |p^2| - V(r). Take the Hamiltonian to be invariant, such that it can be shown that L = r x p the angular momentum vector is a conserved quantity: dL/dt = {L,H} = 0.


Homework Equations


q_i-dot = dH/dp_i and p_i-dot = - dH/dq_i


The Attempt at a Solution


I do not understand how to go about solving the following problem ( I think I understand what the Hamiltonian is, but I do not understand how to from it to what needs to be proven) To solve the problem I believe I need to get from Hamiltonian's equations to Lagrange's p_i = dL/dx_i-dot and then from there use p-dot * dr + p * dr-dot = 0 where dr is defined as the distance between two vectors r and r+dr.
 
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Homework Statement


The Hamiltonian for a particle mass m, moving in a central force field is given as: H = 1/(2m) * |p^2| - V(r). Take the Hamiltonian to be invariant, such that it can be shown that L = r x p the angular momentum vector is a conserved quantity: dL/dt = {L,H} = 0.


Homework Equations


q_i-dot = dH/dp_i and p_i-dot = - dH/dq_i


The Attempt at a Solution


I do not understand how to go about solving the following problem ( I think I understand what the Hamiltonian is, but I do not understand how to from it to what needs to be proven) To solve the problem I believe I need to get from Hamiltonian's equations to Lagrange's p_i = dL/dx_i-dot and then from there use p-dot * dr + p * dr-dot = 0 where dr is defined as the distance between two vectors r and r+dr.

Well, since you are asked to show that [itex]\frac{d\textbf{L}}{dt}=\{\textbf{L},H\}=0[/itex], why not start by computing [itex]\{\textbf{L},H\}[/itex]?
 
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