Constraint Equations: Get the Answers You Need

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding constraint equations that a vector must satisfy to be an element of a given span of vectors in a four-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formation of a matrix from the given vectors and the need to find solutions for coefficients that satisfy the vector equation. There are attempts to manipulate the matrix to achieve a specific form, including discussions about row operations and the structure of the augmented matrix.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing suggestions on how to manipulate the matrix and clarify the setup. Some participants express confusion about achieving a specific matrix form and the inclusion of necessary components for the constraint equations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of renaming variables for clarity and the need for a fourth column in the matrix to derive the constraint equations. Participants are navigating the requirements of the problem without a clear consensus on the next steps.

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Thanks so much guys
 
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jhg12345 said:

Homework Statement


Find constraint equations that b must satisfy in order to be an element of
b. V= Span ((1,0,1,1),(0,1,1,2),(1,1,1,0)


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I get the matrix
[1 0 0 -2
0 1 0 -1
0 0 1 3]. What's the restraint equation?
Let's rename b to x, since I want to use a, b, c, and d as the coordinates of this vector.
In this problem you want to find solutions for c1, c2, and c3 so that c1<1, 0, 1, 1> + c2<0, 1, 1, 2> + c3<1, 1, 1, 0> = <a, b, c, d>.

Is that enough to get you started?
 
Yea, that's what I did and I got a matrix, but I can't get a matrix with a row of all zeros.
 
Use an augmented 4 x 4 matrix with your three vectors as the first three columns, and the coordinates a, b, c, and d as the fourth column.

From the matrix you showed, it looks like you have your three vectors as rows in a 3 x 4 matrix.
 
ok thanks for the help so far, but I am still stuck.
 
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Use the third row to eliminate the 2 entry in the row above it. Then, use the 4th row to eliminate any nonzero entries above it.

Where is your 4th column? You need that to get your constraint equation.
 
Yea, I know. Thanks for the help.
 

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