Construct a field with all positive intergers.

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It is impossible to construct a field using only positive integers while satisfying all basic field properties. The discussion highlights the need to redefine addition and multiplication to accommodate the absence of zero and negative numbers. The professor suggests rephrasing the problem in terms of set theory, which simplifies the inquiry into whether a countable set can be transformed into a field. The conclusion emphasizes the necessity of understanding infinite fields, specifically rational, real, and complex numbers, to approach this problem effectively.

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Homework Statement



Is it possible to construct a field, that satisfies all basic propeties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(mathematics)#Definition_and_illustration , the six bolded part ), with only and all positive integers?

Remeber, you don't have 0/negative numbers/fraction in positive integers, so you may have to redefine addition and multiplication to help.

And, quoted from my professor, "If you rephrase this question in terms of set theory, it would be rather easy then".

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OK first I tried finite field approach, and thought that I could be able to make a value table to enumerate all possible values of addition and multiplication, based on that we refer to Galois Extension to construct higher order of the table, until the p^n order of a finite field. But after speaking with professor, it was said to be wrong direction because I'm supposed to use all positive intergers, other than such special finite field case. Obviously what I'm trying to achieve is a infinite field, and I only know three of such, rational/real/complex.

And there I got a remark from him, that I wrote above, "If you rephrase this question in terms of set theory, it would be rather easy then". I'm only begnning in set theory as a junior math major, and I know I could probably be not able to answer it right now. But curiosity is killing me inside and I'd love to know even a little about what I should know for proving or disproving this postulate.

Thank you very much, and let me know if I do not make it clear somewhere.
 
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Rephrase the question to: You have a countable set. Can you turn it into a field?
 
Office_Shredder said:
Rephrase the question to: You have a countable set. Can you turn it into a field?

That's such amazing rephrase, I suddenly feel I have more for it.

Thanks for the tips, I'll see what I can do now.
 

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