Proving K as a Field: Closure of Qu{i}

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The discussion revolves around proving that K, the closure of Qu{i}, is a field. K is defined as the set of all numbers that can be formed by adding and multiplying rational numbers and i, where i is the complex square root of -1.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants express uncertainty about the necessary steps to prove K is a field, questioning whether they need to demonstrate all field axioms. There is discussion about the definitions and requirements for proving a set is a field, including the need to show closure under addition and multiplication, and the existence of additive and multiplicative inverses.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the proof process and the specific axioms that need to be addressed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of field axioms and the importance of demonstrating that the operations satisfy these axioms.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding terminology, such as the use of "vectors" instead of "elements of a field," and the need for clarity on what constitutes scalars in this context. Participants are also encouraged to refer to their textbooks for definitions and examples.

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Homework Statement



Let K be the closure of Qu{i}, that is, K is the set of all numbers that can be obtained by (repeatedly)
adding and multiplying rational numbers and i, where i is the complex square root of 1.
Show that K is a Field.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am having trouble starting on this problem:

What I know:

Proof the Zero vector is in the set
Proof both addition and scalar multiplication
proof additive and multiplicative inverse

^ am I missing anything?

And i am guessing I have to prove it in the form of
let Q be rational numbers
and scalars a and b in F (field)

aQ + bi = K
 
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1LastTry said:

Homework Statement



Let K be the closure of Qu{i}, that is, K is the set of all numbers that can be obtained by (repeatedly)
adding and multiplying rational numbers and i, where i is the complex square root of 1.
I'm sure you mean √(-1).
1LastTry said:
Show that K is a Field.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I am having trouble starting on this problem:

What I know:

Proof the Zero vector is in the set
Proof both addition and scalar multiplication
proof additive and multiplicative inverse

^ am I missing anything?
Well, yes, quite a lot.
For starters, you're not dealing with vectors. Your textbook should have a definition of the axioms that define a field. You can also find them here, in the section titled "Definition and illustration" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_axioms.

1LastTry said:
And i am guessing I have to prove it in the form of
let Q be rational numbers
and scalars a and b in F (field)

aQ + bi = K

What "scalars" are you talking about? You need to show that a particular set, together with the operations of addition and multiplication, satisfy all of the field axioms.
 
how do I start proofing this? I don't think i have to proof an entire list of axioms?
 
1LastTry said:
how do I start proofing this? I don't think i have to proof an entire list of axioms?
You prove (not proof) that a set K and two operations constitute a field by showing that all of the axioms are satisfied. Again, the axioms should be listed in your book, and are also listed in the link I posted.

You can start by listing a couple of arbitrary members of the set.
 
can you give me an example? of a member of the set?
 

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