Contraction of the Riemann Tensor with the Weak Field Metric

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The discussion revolves around the contraction of the Riemann tensor using a weak field metric in general relativity. Participants explore the derivation of the Ricci tensor from the Riemann tensor and the implications of their calculations, focusing on the mathematical expressions and potential discrepancies with established texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a weak gravitational field metric and derives various components of the Christoffel symbols.
  • Another participant points out the contraction of the Riemann tensor and notes the importance of the factor of 3 when contracting indices.
  • A participant questions how the expression \(\phi^{,i}_{,i}\) relates to \(\nabla^2\phi\) and seeks clarification on this equivalence.
  • Another participant asserts that \(\phi^{,i}_{,i}\) and \(\nabla^2\phi\) are equivalent, explaining that the partial derivatives in this context represent the same operation due to \(\phi\) being a scalar.
  • A later reply reiterates the equivalence of the expressions, providing a detailed breakdown of the relationship between the partial derivatives and the Laplacian operator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the equivalence of \(\phi^{,i}_{,i}\) and \(\nabla^2\phi\), but there is ongoing discussion regarding the derivation of the Ricci tensor and the discrepancies with the referenced text. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact steps leading to the Ricci tensor's expression.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the derivation process, including assumptions about the metric and the treatment of indices during contraction. There is also an implicit dependence on the definitions of the Laplacian and the context of the weak field approximation.

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I have started with the space-time metric in a weak gravitational field (with the assumption of low velocity):
ds^2=-(1+2\phi)dt^2+(1-2\phi)(dx^2+dy^2+dz^2)
Where \phi<<1 is the gravitational potential. Using the standard form for the Christoffel symbols have found:
\Gamma^0_{00}=\phi_{,0}, \Gamma^0_{0i}=\Gamma^0_{i0}=\phi_{,i}, \Gamma^0_{ij}=\delta_{ij}\phi_{,0}
\Gamma^i_{00}=\phi^{,i}, \Gamma^i_{0j}=\Gamma^i_{j0}=-\delta^i_j\phi_{,0}, \Gamma^i_{jk}=\delta_{jk}\phi^{,i}-\delta^i_j\phi_{,k}-\delta^i_k\phi_{,j}
Then combining derivatives of these to first order (ignoring products of Christoffel symbols) using:
R^\alpha_{\beta\mu\nu}=\Gamma^\alpha_{\beta\nu,\mu} - \Gamma^\alpha_{\beta\mu,\nu}
to get:
R^0_{i0j}=\delta_{ij}\phi_{00}-\phi_{ij}, R^i_{0j0}=\phi^{,i}_{,j}+\delta^i_j\phi_{,00}
R^i_{0jk}=-\delta^i_k\phi_{,0j}+\delta^i_j\phi_{0k}, R^i_{kj0}=\delta^i_j\phi_{0k} - \delta_{jk}\phi^{,i}_{,0}
R^i_{kjl}=-\delta^i_l\phi_{,jk}+\delta_{kl}\phi^{,i}_{,j}+ {\delta^i_j}\phi_{,kl}-\delta_{jk}\phi^{,i}_{,l}
(Where greek indices run from 0 to 3 and latin indices run from 1 to 3, and commas denote coordinate partial differentiation). And here is where I run into problems.. When I try to use R_{\alpha\beta}=R^\sigma_{\alpha\sigma\beta} to contract these down to find the Ricci tensor. For example I get:
R_{00}=R^\sigma_{0\sigma 0}=\phi^{,i}_{,i}+\phi_{,00}
Which doesn't agree with the text I'm using which gives R_{00}=\nabla^2\phi +3\phi_{,00}
Can anybody spot where I'm going wrong? Many Thanks for any help.
Jack M
 
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Ri0j0,ijijϕ,00

When you contract this, don't forget that δii = 3.
 
Ok so that takes care of the factor 3, then how does \phi^{,i}_{,i} correspond to \nabla^2\phi? Cheers for the help
 
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Because they are the same. I would assume that $\phi$ is a scalar (from what you showed) - then partial derivative is the same as the full derivative. And what you just wrote are exactly the same - just different way of expressing it. Hope it helps
 
JMedley said:
Ok so that takes care of the factor 3, then how does \phi^{,i}_{,i} correspond to \nabla^2\phi? Cheers for the help

You have \partial ^{i}\partial _{i}\phi = \delta ^{ij}\partial _{j}\partial _{i}\phi and this, in background flat 3 - space with a Cartesian chart is \delta ^{xx}\partial ^{2}_{x}\phi + \delta ^{yy}\partial ^{2}_{y}\phi + \delta ^{zz}\partial^{2} _{z}\phi = \partial ^{2}_{x}\phi + \partial ^{2}_{y}\phi + \partial^{2} _{z}\phi = \triangledown ^{2}\phi
 

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