Control of pH in acidic range by thermal degradation

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A user is seeking an aqueous soluble compound that can thermally decompose or oxidize to produce acidic products within the temperature range of 100-300°C. They note that while urea is water-soluble and decomposes to form ammonia, which raises pH, they struggle to find a similar compound that can lower pH. Ethylene glycol was identified as a potential candidate, but its oxidation process is slow. Another participant suggests that products from transesterification, such as acetic acid and alcohols, can yield more acidic solutions when autoclaved. The original poster is currently testing a formic acid/sodium formate system and considering more complex esters if necessary.
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Hi all,

Long time lurker, very seldom poster.

I have a need for an aqueous soluble compound that will thermally decompose or oxidize to form acidic products in the temperature range 100-300 C.

It's well known that, on the other end of the scale, urea is water-soluble and near-neutral pH at room temperature but will decompose into a variety of products but most importantly ammonia (which dissolves in water to form ammonium ions, thereby raising the pH of the solution considerably). However, I've had considerable difficulty finding anything that can perform a similar function and make the solution more acidic.

The best thing I've found is ethylene glycol, which will oxidize to form ethylene oxide, some ethers, and release free protons. In practice, however, this is a pretty slow process and takes many days to equilibrate.

I'd greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions from more experienced chemists!

Thanks,
--Dave
 
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uby said:
Hi all,

Long time lurker, very seldom poster.

I have a need for an aqueous soluble compound that will thermally decompose or oxidize to form acidic products in the temperature range 100-300 C.

It's well known that, on the other end of the scale, urea is water-soluble and near-neutral pH at room temperature but will decompose into a variety of products but most importantly ammonia (which dissolves in water to form ammonium ions, thereby raising the pH of the solution considerably). However, I've had considerable difficulty finding anything that can perform a similar function and make the solution more acidic.

The best thing I've found is ethylene glycol, which will oxidize to form ethylene oxide, some ethers, and release free protons. In practice, however, this is a pretty slow process and takes many days to equilibrate.

I'd greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions from more experienced chemists!

Thanks,
--Dave

Products of transesterfication are acidic and yield compounds such as acetic acid and alcohols upon autoclaving. I used to autoclave solutions containing anhydrides and esters - the resulting solution was relatively more acidic.
 
hi GCT,

thanks for your input! i am currently working with the formic acid/sodium formate system to test for feasibility, and will move to some of the more complex esters if i cannot induce enough of a pH change.

--dave
 
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