Cooling Hot Water: Find a Solution in 10-15 mins

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to cool down a specific quantity of hot water from 50 degrees Celsius to 30 degrees Celsius within a limited time frame of 10 to 15 minutes. Participants explore various cooling techniques, including the use of chillers and heat exchangers, while addressing the challenges associated with static versus flowing water.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) attempted to use a regular water chiller with an immersed coil arrangement but found it ineffective for cooling hot water.
  • One participant suggests that a heat exchanger requires controlled fluid flow to achieve predictable cooling, indicating that the OP's setup may not facilitate this.
  • Another participant calculates that the chiller needs to remove approximately 2.1MJ of energy in 10 minutes, equating to a cooling power of about 3.5KW.
  • The OP considers replacing the immersed coil heat exchanger with condenser fins and spraying water over them to improve cooling efficiency.
  • Participants discuss the importance of controlling and adjusting the flow rate of water over the cooling surfaces to enhance cooling performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various cooling methods and the design of the cooling system. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple competing ideas are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for specific specifications of the cooling unit, such as its power and coefficient of performance (COP), to determine its suitability for the task. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the optimal design for achieving the desired cooling effect.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in experimental cooling techniques, engineering design, or those facing similar challenges in thermal management may find this discussion relevant.

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I have a project which i need to cool down certain quantity of hot water.

I need to cool down water of around 25 litres at 50 Degree celsius to 30 Degree celsius, Static water, not flowing. (or incoming 50 Degrees - Outgoing 30 Degrees with approx 1.5 gallons per minute flow rate)
time available to cool down the water -10 to 15 mins

I imagined I will be able to cool down the water with a regular water chiller unit with compressor and immersed coil arrangement (pics below). I conducted that experiment but it failed. The cooling doesn't works as expected

I am an armature with water cooling and such physics.
Cold anybody suggest me some method for the above problem.

Thanks

my experiment arrangement
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A heat exchanger needs a controlled flow of fluid past the low temp surfaces. The way you have this drawn, it looks like you pump water in and let it flow out of its own volition without taking any pre-determined path over the chilling coils. This won't provide a very predictable cooling for the water.

If you are controlling the flow over the coils, you either need more time for the water to dump heat (slow down the flow or add length to the path against the coils), or you need to lower the temp of the coils.
 
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I calculate that the chiller has to remove about 2.1MJ of energy in 10 mins which works out at about 3.5KW.

What do you mean by a "regular water chiller" ?

PS: I can only see one of the three images you posted.
 
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@Grinkle - thank you very much for the info. i was reading similar info about the chilling towers and I am trying to do an experimental setup to make the liquid flow over a cooling surface.
for the experiment, How about replacing the immersed coil heat exchanger with condensor fins and spray water to it at top and allow water to flow down.
see the figure below. do you think this is a good idea ?

need suggestions please. or if you have any better idea kindly help

2yux3io.jpg


@CWatters : by Regular Chiller i meant the generic water dispenser chiller unit used for drinking water. Those have the coil immersed arrangement. but they only cool the water at normal temp. in my case its hot water.
also there is only 1 pic. no 3 pictures.
 
What's the spec on the cooler? Eg does it have the power and COP to shift 3.5kW?
 
That looks a bit more controllable to me. Something else you might consider that is still pretty simple is laying the cooling coils flat on a water-right surface and letting water run over the top of it, controlling the flow rate by changing the incline of the cooling coil.

One main goal of your design should be to be able to control and adjust the flow rate. IMO its not likely that you will calculate your way to exactly what you want, you are going to have to assess and adjust.
 

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