Copper penny failling between poles of magnet

In summary, the discussion covers the topic of a copper penny falling between the poles of a magnet and the effect of eddy currents on its velocity. It is determined that while there is a change in magnetic flux and eddy currents are induced, there is no change in the penny's velocity relative to the ground. Instead, the kinetic energy is converted into heat due to the magnetic field doing work against the motion of the penny.
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bishy
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Homework Statement


A copper penny falls on a path that takes it between the poles of a magnet. Does it hit the ground going faster, slower, or at the same speed.


The Attempt at a Solution



Clearly the penny undergoes a change in magnetic flux. Since it receives a change in magnetic flux we expect that a current either begins within the penny, becomes stronger or reverses. Although there is a slight shift with the current it does not affect the mass of the penny or the effect of its gravitational constant. Because of this I expect there to be no change in velocity of the penny relative to the ground but a shift in velocity of current, I, within the penny. Is this correct?
 
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bishy said:
Is this correct?

Not quite. You are correct that there are eddy currents induced in the penny due to the change in flux, but remember that currents loops (think of the eddy currents as forming tiny current loops all over the penny) act as tiny magnetic dipoles. So, will these current loops experience a force from the B field? If so, how does this force affect the current loops, and thus the penny?

HINT: Try thinking in terms of Lenz's Law.
 
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Hows about this: By Lenz's law I expect that the penny will do work against the magnet. Since there is no change in potential energy this change has to be through kinetic energy. Since there is also no change in the mass of the penny, it must be velocity that is expected to change. This change will be a negative change which indicates that the velocity of the penny relative to the ground will slow down. The kinetic energy that is lost is converted into heat.
 
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You overall end result is correct, but I think you may be a little confused conceptually.

In particular, the penny does not do work on the magnet, but the magnetic field from the magnet does work on the penny against the motion of the penny. Other than that, everything sounds good.:smile:
 

1. Why does a copper penny fall between the poles of a magnet?

The reason a copper penny falls between the poles of a magnet is because copper is not a magnetic material. Unlike iron or steel, which are attracted to magnets, copper is not affected by magnetic fields. Therefore, it will not stick to the poles of a magnet and will instead fall through.

2. Can any other materials fall between the poles of a magnet?

Yes, other non-magnetic materials such as aluminum, silver, and gold will also fall between the poles of a magnet for the same reason as copper. These materials are not affected by magnetic fields and will not stick to the poles of a magnet.

3. Will a copper penny behave the same way with all types of magnets?

Yes, a copper penny will behave the same way with all types of magnets. As long as the magnet is strong enough to create a magnetic field, the penny will fall through the poles and not stick to them.

4. Can a copper penny be magnetized?

No, a copper penny cannot be magnetized because it is not a ferromagnetic material. This means that its atoms are not aligned in a way that allows it to become magnetized. However, it can be temporarily magnetized when in close contact with a strong magnet, but this effect will not last.

5. Is there any benefit to using a copper penny in experiments with magnets?

While a copper penny may not be affected by magnetic fields, it can be used to demonstrate the strength of a magnet. When a strong magnet is placed on top of a copper penny, it can be observed that the magnet is still able to pick up other magnetic materials, such as paperclips. This demonstrates the strong and focused magnetic field of the magnet.

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