Correspondence principle and its use

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The discussion revolves around the correspondence principle, its theoretical implications, and potential practical applications in various fields, particularly in physics and engineering. Participants explore its relevance in both quantum mechanics and classical physics, as well as seek literature for further research.

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  • One participant seeks examples of the correspondence principle's application in real life, suggesting that it relates classical and quantum equations, although they express uncertainty about their understanding.
  • Another participant corrects the initial statement about the correspondence principle, explaining that it describes how quantum systems resemble classical systems as quantum numbers increase, using the harmonic oscillator as an example.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the idea that the correspondence principle applies to both quantum mechanics and classical physics, citing the Newtonian limit of general relativity and the transition from special relativity to Galilean relativity as examples.
  • This participant also discusses effective field theories and how the correspondence principle helps explain the emergence of classical mechanics from quantum mechanics through limiting procedures.
  • One participant expresses a need for more literature on the correspondence principle for their diploma research in mechanical engineering, indicating difficulty in finding sufficient resources.

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There is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the correspondence principle, with different participants offering varying examples and applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding practical applications in industry and the availability of literature on the topic.

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Participants express uncertainty about the practical applications of the correspondence principle in industry and the availability of comprehensive literature on the subject, indicating limitations in their current resources.

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Students and researchers in physics and engineering, particularly those interested in the theoretical foundations of quantum mechanics and its relation to classical physics, may find this discussion relevant.

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Can you give me some examples, link of correspondence principle use in life. All I have found out are theoretical examples such as Bohr's model...

If I understand right, correspondence principle says that simple equations used for classical examples with a few data and quantum equations used for larger data, give us pretty much the same results. If we'd use simple equations instead of quantum we'd make some mistake, but not to critical.

Is my thinking correct? Can you give me an example for its use in industry?
 
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Your statement of the correspondence principle in incorrect. It says that as a quantum number increases, the behavior of the quantum system resembles more and more the classically equivalent system.

One example is the harmonic oscillator. While the ground state of the quantum HO has a a maximum probability in the middle of the potential, as you go higher in energy states, the probability starts to have maxima at the classical turning points of the potential.

I don't know of any practical use of this in industry. It is mostly useful to understand the quantum to classical transition.
 
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The modern notion of the principle doesn't apply only to qm, but also to classical physics. The Newtonian limit of general relativity is an example, or the c --> oo limit of special relativity giving Galilean relativity.

In physics we work with effective field thories. Some theories are more complete than others, and should contain 'older' theories. E.g. General Relativity should 'contain' Newtonian gravity, special relativity and Galilean relativity. I.e. it should imply these theories in certain limits. The correspondence principle tells you how the less complete theories are obtained by limiting procedures (involving the appropriate constants like h,c or G) of the more complete theories.

For QM you can take the h --> 0 limit in the path integral and use a saddle point approximation, which leaves you only with the path implied by the action principle. As such the correspondence principle can explain the role of the action in classical mechanics and the emergence of determinism.

Hope this helps :)
 
Thanks guys.

I've been looking for some literature about cor. principle in my hometown libraries but haven't found much (I found most about Bohr's cp). The thing is I need as much literature I can get, because it's my diploma research. A few pages won't be enough. I attend mechanical engineering faculty so literature should be about cor. principle in physics. I've been looking over the internet, but haven't found enough (Wikipedia and so it's not enough).

Can you give me some internet base of that kind of literature?
 

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