Could Electromagnet Vibration Indicate a Current Limit in the Power Supply?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon observed when a coil of wire wrapped around a magnet is powered, leading to vibrations in the setup. Participants explore the underlying causes of this vibration, considering aspects of electromagnetism and power supply characteristics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the setup involving a magnet and wire, noting vibrations when powered, and seeks an explanation for this phenomenon.
  • Another participant suggests that the vibration results from the magnetic field in the coil due to current repelling the magnet, influenced by the magnet's polar structure and weak field.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that the power supply might be introducing an AC component, which could be responsible for the vibrations, questioning whether the power source is purely DC.
  • Another hypothesis is that the power supply could be entering a current limit mode, causing pulsing behavior that might affect the voltage regulation and lead to the observed vibrations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the cause of the vibrations, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Each proposed mechanism remains under discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the exact nature of the power supply (AC vs. DC) and its characteristics, as well as the specific current draw from the setup, which may influence the observed effects.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring electromagnetism, electronics experimentation, and the behavior of power supplies in circuit applications.

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Hey, so I just ripped the two permanent magnets out of an old seagate hard drive, and have a breadboard for my electronics class to practice with logic chips, and figured id wrap some wire around one of the magnets and see what happens.

I got around 10 turns of the wire about the magnet, and noticed when i turned the power on (5V), there was a vibration that could be felt in the magnet/wire. when power was turned off this went away.

can anyone give me a reason as to what phenomenon this was? My e+m was always shaky, so any help is appreciated
 
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after some playing around, I am deducing this vibration is from the magnetic field in the coil due to current, repelling the magnet, but due to the polar structure of the magnet and the weak field, this leads to a small vibration
 
Sound like you're using either 5Vac, or there is significant AC present in an otherwise 5 Vdc source. You're pretty much right, this creates an AC component in the coil's magnetic field which creates the vibration.

I don't know how much current you're drawing, but you might try 3 D-cell batteries as a power source. Those should not cause vibrations.
 
My guess is the power supply is going into current limit and the pulsing is a sort of sampling that I've seen some supplies use to determine whether or not to try to regulate a constant voltage. Yours may not be the type of supply that I have seen do this, but I thought I'd throw it out.
 

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