Could I make a transmitter with just a microcontroller

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a microcontroller to transmit a 400 MHz RF signal through a wire loop. Participants explore the technical aspects, limitations, and potential solutions related to this concept.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a microcontroller can output a 400 MHz signal through an I/O pin to a wire loop.
  • Another participant asserts that while a microcontroller can transmit a 400 MHz signal, it would also produce integer multiples of that frequency due to the square wave output, suggesting the need for a low pass filter to reduce harmonics.
  • A different participant raises concerns about the power output capabilities of microcontrollers, noting that typical outputs are around 20 mA, translating to approximately 50 mW, but actual transmitted power may be lower due to impedance mismatches with the antenna.
  • A participant inquires about methods to increase RF power output from a microcontroller.
  • Another participant mentions the existence of microcontrollers with integrated RF transmitter/receiver capabilities, specifically citing the rfPIC12F675F from Microchip.
  • One participant points out that few hobbyist microcontrollers can operate at the necessary speeds to output a 400 MHz modulated signal, recommending those with built-in RF capabilities from manufacturers like Microchip and TI.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the feasibility of using a microcontroller for RF transmission, with some agreeing on the limitations of power output and the need for additional components, while others suggest alternatives or enhancements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve the desired RF transmission.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to power output, impedance matching, and the speed capabilities of microcontrollers, which may affect the feasibility of transmitting a 400 MHz signal.

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Would this work? If I had a microcontroller output a 400mhz signal through one of its I/O then to a loop of wire. Would it transmit a RF signal at 400mhz?
 
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Yes, it would transmit that and integer multiplies of that frequency, since the output from IO is more like a square wave than a pure sine wave. In either case, you'd have to follow up with an output low pass filter to attenuate the higher harmonics. But I don't know of a microcontoller that could do that straight out of the IO pin.

Such signals are easier generated by a transistor oscillator, a simple one transistor oscillator could get you on UHF in no time. But there are a host of other problems to consider.
 
Another issue is the amount of power you're likely to get from just a micro controller. I believe most micro controllers can only put out 20 mA max, with a square wave that works out to about 50 mW. However, it's very unlikely for a uC output to be impedance matched to the antenna, so the amount of actual transmitted power is probably much lower even than that.
 
How could I increase the RF power?
 
There are also very few (hobbyist) microcontrollers that operate fast enough for you to output a 400 MHz modulated signal. As HGE suggests, find one with the RF built-in--in addition to Microchip, I believe TI has some as well.

EDIT: Welcome, HGE!
 

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