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The discussion revolves around proving the integrability of the function f(x), defined as 0 for x = 1/n (where n is a natural number) and 1 otherwise, on the interval [0,1]. Participants clarify that despite the infinite discontinuities at points 1/n, the function is integrable because the set of discontinuities is countable and does not affect the overall integral. The upper and lower sums are discussed, with corrections made regarding their calculations, emphasizing that they converge to yield an integral of 1. Additionally, the countability of the set of inverse naturals is established, reinforcing that it is smaller than the set of irrationals. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the definitions and properties of integrals in relation to functions with discontinuities.
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Let f ( x ) = {0, if x = 1/n for some natural number n
or 1, otherwise

Note: Natural number would refer to the set of positive integers Z+ that is 1,2,3,...

Prove that this function is integrable on [0,1] and it's integral is 1

Certainly there are an infinite number of dicontinuities and nearly all of the function lies in the domain of [0,1]. But is the set of Inverse Naturals (1/n) (postive integers) bigger than the set of irrationals?

Someone recommended using the Robustness of the Reimann Integral

Let g and f be two functions defined on [a,b], and suppose
that the set of numbers in [a,b] at which the functions do not
take the same value (at which they "differ") is finite.
 
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Can you prove it's integrable over [a, 1] for some positive a?
 
What definitions are you using? You should have no problem showing that the upper and lower sum converge.
 
how

Hurkyl said:
Can you prove it's integrable over [a, 1] for some positive a?

what do you mean? AS for the upper and lower sums - so then

U(f,P) = Sum i =1 to infinity 1 = infinity

and L (f,P) = 0

they don't seem to converge...?
 
stunner5000pt said:
what do you mean? AS for the upper and lower sums - so then

U(f,P) = Sum i =1 to infinity 1 = infinity

and L (f,P) = 0

they don't seem to converge...?

Oh, dear. I don't want to hurt your feelings but you are way, way off.
For one thing, your integral is from x= 0 to x= 1 so the sum is NOT from 1 to infinity. The sum in U(f,P) is over the intervals in the partion- for any finite partition, it is a finite sum. Also the summand is not 1:it is 1 times the length of the interval in the partition. U(f,P) is NOT infinity.

Also, L(f,P) is not 0. Since f(x) is 1 for all x except 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, etc. it clearly is equal to 1 for all x> 1/2: L(f,P) will be 1(1/2)+ something.

Oh, by the way:
"But is the set of Inverse Naturals (1/n) (postive integers) bigger than the set of irrationals?"

Not even close: there is an obvious one-to-one correspondence between the naturals and "inverse naturals" (n<-> 1/n) so the set {1/n} is countable.
 
so how can i prove taht the set of naturals is countable or finite, thus proving that the function has a finite number of discontinuities?

is there a theorem ??
 
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