Could Turbine Exhaust Temperatures Reach Below Zero Celsius?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of turbine exhaust temperatures reaching below zero Celsius, specifically in the context of a turbine operating under certain inlet and exit conditions. Participants are examining the calculations related to exhaust temperatures and the implications of using different models for the working fluid.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Homework-related, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) calculates an exhaust temperature of 176 K and questions its feasibility under given conditions of 7.8 MPa inlet pressure and 625 K inlet temperature.
  • Some participants request the OP to share their calculations to facilitate further discussion.
  • There is a question regarding whether the turbine in question is a steam turbine.
  • CWatters mentions that the OP's calculations were previously posted but are now missing, and notes that the working fluid may be a van der Waals gas rather than an ideal gas.
  • Chet expresses frustration about the OP not sharing results from private communications, emphasizing the importance of transparency in discussions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the feasibility of the calculated exhaust temperature or the nature of the working fluid, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion is unresolved regarding the implications of the calculations and the appropriate model to use.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of the OP's calculations, as they have not been provided in the current thread. Additionally, the discussion may depend on the definitions and assumptions related to the working fluid and the thermodynamic model applied.

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Could turbine exhaust temperature be negative celsius?

My calculations yield 176 K. Is that possible?

Inlet conditions are 7.8 MPa and 625 K. Exit pressure is 1 atm. (100 kPa.)
 
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Albertov123 said:
Could turbine exhaust temperature be negative celsius?

My calculations yield 176 K. Is that possible?

Inlet conditions are 7.8 MPa and 625 K. Exit pressure is 1 atm. (100 kPa.)
Instead of making us guess, why don't you post your calculations?
 
It's a bit complicated.
 
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Is this a steam turbine?

PS: Check out the forum rules for the homework sections.
 
CWatters said:
Is this a steam turbine?

PS: Check out the forum rules for the homework sections.
CWatters: The OP posted his calculations before this thread was moved to the HW forum, then the calculations disappeared from the thread. As far as I can recall, the working fluid was a van der Waals gas rather than an ideal gas, with certain values given for the constants in the vdW equation of state.
 
Albertov123,

I think you owe it to SteamKing and CWatters to paste into this thread the results of our private communications on this problem. Now you know why I don't like helping someone in private discussions. Please don't put me in that position again.

Chet
 

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