Counteracting the inertia of Earth's rotation

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The discussion centers on the concept of counteracting Earth's rotation using a drone at the equator. It explores whether a drone could hover in place after flying against the Earth's spin, with participants debating the effects of the atmosphere on the drone's motion. Key points include that the atmosphere rotates with the Earth, meaning the drone would need to maintain a specific speed to remain stationary relative to the stars or the Sun. Additionally, local wind conditions could affect the drone's ability to hover without being influenced by the Earth's rotation. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of motion relative to Earth's rotational dynamics.
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Don't you think it'd be a crazy sight to see though? Even from a vantage point standing on the earth. Looking up at a plane flying stationary in relation to the sun/star. The plane would be in the sky from sun up to sun down (if it could keep the speed of 1000mph for that whole time)
 
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Vic43 said:
Even from a vantage point standing on the earth. Looking up at a plane flying stationary in relation to the sun/star. The plane would be in the sky from sun up to sun down (if it could keep the speed of 1000mph for that whole time
It wouldn't though. It would cross from horizon to horizon in 10-20 minutes perhaps, faster than would a normal airliner that doesn't fly at mach 1.4. If it crossed in front of the sun, it would be there only for a few moments.

Remember, from a vantage point standing on the earth, the observer is moving at 1000 mph relative to that aircraft.

I've been on such a plane, flying pretty much in pace with the sun, so it stayed more or less 'noon' the whole time. I just wasn't on the equator at the time, but more like over Greenland.
 
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Vic43 said:
Don't you think it'd be a crazy sight to see though? Even from a vantage point standing on the earth. Looking up at a plane flying stationary in relation to the sun/star. The plane would be in the sky from sun up to sun down (if it could keep the speed of 1000mph for that whole time)
As @Halc says, the plane would not appear stationary to you, it would zoom by at high speed and a few seconds later you would hear a sonic boom (if you are at low lattitude where the speed is supersonic).

Reminds me of a fun story from when I was a little kid living in Pasadena in Southern California. We were in a crowd waiting for the Rose Parade to start, and I was looking up a light pole and noticed the high clouds above moving with respect to the top of the light pole. I said, "Hey dad, I can see the Earth turning under those clouds!" My dad smiled, and said, "No son, even though you don't feel any wind down here right now, there is wind up there where those clouds are, and it's just the wind pushing the clouds along above us."

Learn something new every day... :smile:
 
  • #54
Vic43 said:
Don't you think it'd be a crazy sight to see though? Even from a vantage point standing on the earth. Looking up at a plane flying stationary in relation to the sun/star. The plane would be in the sky from sun up to sun down (if it could keep the speed of 1000mph for that whole time)
As others have pointed out, it would only be in your sky for a few minutes. Your portion of the sky,from east horizon to west horizon is only a few hundred km. The plane will cross that in minutes.

You will not see the plane stationary in relation to the sun.
 
  • #55
Vic43 said:
Don't you think it'd be a crazy sight to see though? Even from a vantage point standing on the earth. Looking up at a plane flying stationary in relation to the sun/star.
It wouldn't. You need to draw a diagram. The plane would not be stationary relative to the Sun to a ground observer.
Vic43 said:
The plane would be in the sky from sun up to sun down (if it could keep the speed of 1000mph for that whole time)
You're not going to see the plane for all that time. It would have travelled half way round the Earth in that time. You can only see the Sun for 12 hours because it's so far away.
 
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True my bad , I stand corrected on that one
 
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