Creating an Exponential decay equation for given parameters

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The discussion revolves around creating an exponential decay equation for mass flow that decreases to half its original value in 60 seconds. Participants explore various formulations of the decay equation and the parameters involved, focusing on the mathematical representation and implications of the decay process over time.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the standard decay equation m(t) = m0 * exp(-At) and seeks a modified version that approaches a steady state at 60 seconds.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative equation m(t) = m0 + B (exp(-At) - 1), proposing specific values for B to fit the conditions.
  • A later reply calculates the decay constant A based on the requirement that m(60) = (1/2)m0, leading to A = -ln(1/2)/60, and derives the equation m(t) = m0 * (1/2)^(t/60).
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of the original question, with one questioning if it is a homework problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single equation, as multiple formulations are proposed and debated. There is also uncertainty regarding the context of the question, with differing views on whether it is related to homework or a research project.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the parameters A and B, and the implications of the decay process over time. There are unresolved aspects regarding the best fit for the given conditions and the interpretation of the decay equation.

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So, I am wanting to vary a parameter in an equation with respect to time.
  • Vary mass flow [ m(t) ] for an exponential decay to half its original value in around 60 seconds.
I know the regular decay equation where:
m(t)=m0*exp(-At)
but I want the value to approach a steady state at 60 seconds (i.e. I am decreasing my pump/mass-flow by one half over 60 seconds).

I need an equation which will allow this to occur.
 
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shakystew said:
So, I am wanting to vary a parameter in an equation with respect to time.
  • Vary mass flow [ m(t) ] for an exponential decay to half its original value in around 60 seconds.
I know the regular decay equation where:
m(t)=m0*exp(-At)
but I want the value to approach a steady state at 60 seconds (i.e. I am decreasing my pump/mass-flow by one half over 60 seconds).

I need an equation which will allow this to occur.
Is this homework?
 
It is not. It is for my current project for my research. I figured it out :)
 
Why not m(t) = m0 +B (exp(-A t)-1) with for example B=m0/2 or other adjusted values of A and B for better fit to the given conditions.
 
shakystew said:
So, I am wanting to vary a parameter in an equation with respect to time.
  • Vary mass flow [ m(t) ] for an exponential decay to half its original value in around 60 seconds.
I know the regular decay equation where:
m(t)=m0*exp(-At)
but I want the value to approach a steady state at 60 seconds (i.e. I am decreasing my pump/mass-flow by one half over 60 seconds).

I need an equation which will allow this to occur.
So you want m(60)= m0 exp(-60A)= (1/2)m0. Then you want exp(-60A)= 1/2 so -60A= ln(1/2), A= -ln(1/2)/60.
(Since 1/2< 1, ln(1/2)< 0 so A will be positive).
You have m(t)= m0e(-tln(1/2)/60))= m0etln((1/2)^(t/60))= m0(1/2)(t/60).

In fact, we could have argued from the first that it must be of that form- since it decreases by 1/2 every 60 seconds (exponential decay always decreases by the same fraction over the same time interval) the original amount must be multiplied by 1/2 every 60 seconds. In time t seconds, there are t/60 "60 second time intervals" so the original amount is multiplied by 1/2 t/60 times: (1/2)t/60.
 

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