Cross Product Identity: Solving for (A X B)^2

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical identity for the square of the cross product of two vectors, specifically (A X B)^2. Participants clarify that squaring a vector is not standard terminology and suggest interpreting it as either the dot product or the magnitude squared. The calculations show that (V1 X V2) dot (V1 X V2) and (V1 X V2) x (V1 X V2) yield zero, but the discussion emphasizes the importance of defining the notation clearly. The final conclusion indicates that (A X B)^2 can be expressed in terms of the magnitudes of the vectors and the sine of the angle between them. Understanding the notation is crucial for accurate calculations in vector mathematics.
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I've been trying to find what the square of two cross products is and can't find it. Can anyone tell me the identity for
(A X B)^2 ?
 
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A \times B is a vector, so do you want
<br /> (A \times B) \times (A \times B) ?<br />

If so, it's not too difficult. For any vector a, can you simplify a \times a?

(For that matter, which definition of the cross product are you using?)
 
Sirius24 said:
I've been trying to find what the square of two cross products is and can't find it. Can anyone tell me the identity for
(A X B)^2 ?

You don't usually talk about squaring a vector. So you have to tell us what that notation means or otherwise correct your question. It might mean any of these:

|A x B|2
(A x B) dot (A x B)
(A x B) x (A x B)

or something else.
 
LCKurtz said:
You don't usually talk about squaring a vector. So you have to tell us what that notation means or otherwise correct your question. It might mean any of these:

|A x B|2
(A x B) dot (A x B)
(A x B) x (A x B)

or something else.

The notation is exactly as I posted it. My homework has two vectors, V1 and V2. The part I'm trying to work with says (V1 X V2)^2. I worked through (V1 X V2) dot (V1 X V2) and (V1 X V2) x (V1 X V2). The result is zero in either case for this problem, but will that always be the case?
 
Sirius24 said:
The notation is exactly as I posted it. My homework has two vectors, V1 and V2. The part I'm trying to work with says (V1 X V2)^2. I worked through (V1 X V2) dot (V1 X V2) and (V1 X V2) x (V1 X V2). The result is zero in either case for this problem, but will that always be the case?

That's not the point. You need to know what that notation means before it makes sense to calculate it. Answer this:

If A = 3i -2j + 5k, what is A2?

Somewhere you must have a definition of what you mean by squaring a vector.
 
LCKurtz said:
You don't usually talk about squaring a vector. So you have to tell us what that notation means or otherwise correct your question. It might mean any of these:

|A x B|2
(A x B) dot (A x B)
The first two of these are the same

(A x B) x (A x B)
True but probably not what was meant- especially since it is trivial.

or something else.
Assuming that "A^2" for A a vector really means "(length of A) squared"
then we know that
|A\times B|= |A||B|sin(\theta)
where \theta is the angle between vectors A and B.

So
(A\times B)^2= |A\times B|^2= |A|^2|B|^2 sin^2(\theta)

You might also recall that
cos(\theta)= \frac{A\cdot B}{|A||B|}
and, of course, sin^2(\theta)= 1- cos^2(\theta).
 
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