Cube root of 6 is irrational. (please check if my proof is correct)

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The discussion centers on proving that the cube root of 6 is irrational through contradiction. The initial assumption is that the cube root of 6 can be expressed as a fraction a/b, where a and b are co-prime integers. The proof demonstrates that if 2 divides a, it must also divide b, contradicting the assumption of co-primality. Participants suggest simplifying the proof by directly stating that 6 divides a^3, leading to the conclusion that if n is not a perfect square, its root is irrational, while perfect squares yield rational roots. The conversation emphasizes the importance of clarity and correctness in mathematical proofs.
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Prove that cube root of 6 irrational.

Solution: I am trying to prove by contradiction.

Assume cube root 6 is rational. Then let cube root 6 = a/b ( a & b are co-prime and b not = 0)
Cubing both sides : 6=a^3/b^3
a^3 = 6b^3
a^3 = 2(3b^3)
Therefore, 2 divides a^3 or a^2 * a . By Euclid's Lemma if a prime number divides the product of two integers then it must divide one of the two integers. Since all the terms here are the same we conclude that 2 divides a.
Now there exists an integer k such that a=2k
Substituting 2k in the above equation
8k^3 = 6b^3
b^3 = 2{(2k^3) / 3)}
Therefore, 2 divides b^3. Using the same logic as above. 2 divides b.
Hence 2 is common factor of both a & b. But this is a contradiction of the fact that a & b are co-prime.
Therefore, the initial assumption is wrong. cube root 6 is irrational
 
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pankaz712 said:
Prove that cube root of 6 irrational.

Solution: I am trying to prove by contradiction.

Assume cube root 6 is rational. Then let cube root 6 = a/b ( a & b are co-prime and b not = 0)
Cubing both sides : 6=a^3/b^3
a^3 = 6b^3
a^3 = 2(3b^3)
I don't think you need the step which I bolded. You can just say from the previous line,
a^3 = 6b^3
that 6 divides a^3, and consequently, 6 divides a. So if 6 divides a, there exists an integer k such that a = 6k. Replace in
a^3 = 6b^3
and see what happens.
 
eumyang said:
I don't think you need the step which I bolded. You can just say from the previous line,
a^3 = 6b^3
that 6 divides a^3, and consequently, 6 divides a. So if 6 divides a, there exists an integer k such that a = 6k. Replace in
a^3 = 6b^3
and see what happens.

i did that because i thought Euclid's Lemma was true only for prime numbers.
 
How do you know that (2k^3) / 3 is an integer?
 
I remembered seeing this proof before, so I guess I am not remembering it correctly.

Let's try this:
pankaz712 said:
Now there exists an integer k such that a=2k
Substituting 2k in the above equation
8k^3 = 6b^3
b^3 = 2{(2k^3) / 3)}
Something bothers me about the bolded. Do we know for sure that "(2k^3) / 3)" is an integer? Instead, I would say this:
8k^3 = 6b^3
4k^3 = 3b^3

The LHS contains at least one factor that is even, so the entire LHS is even. Therefore the RHS is even and b^3 is even. Etc., etc.

EDIT: Beaten to it. :wink:
 
eumyang said:
The LHS contains at least one factor that is even, so the entire LHS is even. Therefore the RHS is even and b^3 is even. Etc., etc.

thnx i understood ur method. I have just one more question:

How to prove that root n is irrational, if n is not a perfect square. Also, if n is a perfect square then how does it affect the proof.
 
Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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