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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit as x approaches 8 for the expression (x-8)/(cubed root of x - 2). Participants are exploring methods to resolve the indeterminate form encountered at this limit.

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  • Participants discuss various approaches, including multiplying by the conjugate and factoring the expression. Some express confusion about L'Hôpital's rule and its application, while others suggest factoring techniques to simplify the limit evaluation.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the use of L'Hôpital's rule and alternative factoring methods. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but multiple strategies are being explored, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants note the challenge of the 0/0 indeterminate form when substituting x = 8 and discuss the limitations of different algebraic manipulations in this context.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate lim x->8 (x-8)/(cubed root of x) -2)


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I multiplied both numerator and denominator by (cubed root of x) +2. In the denominator, I wrote it as ((x^1/3)-2)*((x^1/3)+2) which simplifies to (x^2/3)-4. I have ((x-8)*((cubed root of x) +2))/((x^2/3)-4). The answer should be 12 but I cannot reach this answer as I get an answer of 0 in the denominator
 
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Use L'Hôpital's rule...
 
which is?
 
I don't understand how to use it
 
I found this question on another website and they factored x-8 which canceled the ((x^1/3)-8) in the denominator and then you plug 8 into the rest of the numerator to get 12. Is it not possible to just multiply numerator and denominator by (x^1/3)+2?
 
Okay, as both the as both the numerator and denominator in your function equal 0, when x = 8, you end up with 0/0 which is undefined, so we must use L'Hôpital's rule. Differentiating the numerator with respect to (wrt) x and the numerator wrt x we get.

[tex]\frac{1}{\frac{1x^{\frac{-2}{3}}}{3}}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{3}{x^{\frac{-2}{3}}}[/tex]

when x = 8 the above expression equals 12.

I hope this example helps you understand L'Hôpital's rule, which is a very powerful mathematical tool for functions. Take sinc x as another example which is (sin x)/x. As x approaches 0 sinc x approaches 0/0, but using L'Hôpital's rule, we can say that when x = 0 sinc 0 = 1.
 
ochocinco1992 said:
I found this question on another website and they factored x-8 which canceled the ((x^1/3)-8) in the denominator and then you plug 8 into the rest of the numerator to get 12. Is it not possible to just multiply numerator and denominator by (x^1/3)+2?

If you had [itex]\sqrt{x} - 2[/itex] with a square root, you could multiply by its conjugate [itex]\sqrt{x} + 2[/itex]. However, you have [itex]\sqrt[3]{x} - 2[/itex] with a cube root which don't really have a conjugate.

So all you can do without using l'Hôpital's rule from Calc II is use the fact that x3 - y3 = (x - y)(x2 + xy + y2) and factor x - 8, or multiply [itex]\sqrt[3]{x} - 2[/itex] by something that will turn it into x - 8.
 
do as bohrok suggests note that x-8 = (x^(1/3))^3 - 2^3 and use the formula he wrote
 
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rsa58 said:
do as bohrok suggests note that x-8 = (x^(1/3))^3 - 2^3 and use the formula he wrote

That is an acceptable way for this problem, but some expressions will not factor out as easily as this. That is why I have emphasised learning L'Hôpital's rule as it is an easy way to find the limit for all most all expressions.
 

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