Curiosity for existence of Anti- photons?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the existence of anti-photons, the annihilation products of photons and their corresponding anti-particles, and the implications for light and darkness. Participants explore theoretical concepts related to quantum physics, particle interactions, and the nature of matter and antimatter.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an anti-particle of a photon exists, suggesting that if it does, the annihilation product of a photon and an anti-photon could be explored.
  • Another participant asserts that the anti-particle of a photon is itself a photon and states that photon-photon collisions are rare, allowing for the creation of various particles if energy and conservation laws permit.
  • There is a proposal to create a region devoid of light by colliding photons with anti-photons, likening it to sound waves nullifying each other, which is met with skepticism regarding the nature of photon interactions.
  • Participants discuss the types of particles that could result from photon collisions, noting that energy levels dictate the possible outcomes, such as producing electron-positron pairs from gamma ray photons.
  • Questions arise about the existence of matter and antimatter, the observed baryonic asymmetry in the universe, and the conventions used to define matter versus antimatter.
  • One participant humorously notes that understanding the dominance of matter over antimatter could lead to a Nobel Prize, highlighting the ongoing mystery in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of anti-photons and the implications of photon interactions. While some agree on the rarity of photon collisions, there is no consensus on the nature of annihilation products or the broader implications for matter and antimatter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved questions about the mechanisms governing particle formation from photon collisions and the nature of baryonic asymmetry, indicating limitations in current understanding.

Shri13
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Hello friends! I am a newbie here. I love quantum physics very much... especially the standard model of fundamental particles, QED, QCD, etc. I have an urge to create my own theory on space quanta (that's for another time...) but my main question is:
  • Does anti-particle of a photon exist (i.e. anti-photon) ?
  • And if it does exist then what will be the anhilation product of it? (i.e. photon + anti-photon ---> ?)
  • Also will anti photon help to create black light? (i.e. will it help to create darkness?)
 
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Shri13 said:
Does anti-particle of a photon exist (i.e. anti-photon) ?
The anti-particle of a photon is a photon.

Shri13 said:
And if it does exist then what will be the anhilation product of it? (i.e. photon + anti-photon ---> ?)
Photon-photon collisions are very rare. A priori you can create anything as long as conservation laws are obeyed and you have enough energy.

Shri13 said:
Also will anti photon help to create black light? (i.e. will it help to create darkness?)
No.
 
Orodruin said:
No.
For your third reply sir, i meant can we make a certain region ( say a cubic metre) devoid of light by colliding light photons with their corresponding anti photons? ( just like how sound waves nullify each other when they approach out of phase!)
 
Shri13 said:
For your third reply sir, i meant can we make a certain region ( say a cubic metre) devoid of light by colliding light photons with their corresponding anti photons? ( just like how sound waves nullify each other when they approach out of phase!)

You mean colliding photons with other photons. As its own antiparticle a photon is never called an antiphoton. To answer your question, yes, the possibility exists, but as Orodruin already said, the cross section is exceedingly low, which means that photons very, very rarely interact with each other in annihilation events. But this is nothing like two waves interacting out of phase. Annihilation events between two photons would create other particles.
 
Drakkith said:
Annihilation events between two photons would create other particles.

That's what I was asking.
Can you tell me what will be those particles?
Will those particles be neutral, charged or massless, etc. And basically what will govern the formation of a particular type of particle from the collision of photons?
Does that means light created matter and antimatter then why only matter is existing in our visible universe? And where is the rest of antimatter gone?
Also what's the proof that this matter which we see is "matter" and not the "anti matter"?
 
Shri13 said:
Will those particles be neutral, charged or massless, etc. And basically what will govern the formation of a particular type of particle from the collision of photons?

As long as you have enough energy, you can produce almost any type of particle as long as conservation rules are followed. For example, two gamma ray photons can annihilate and produce an electron-positron pair.

Shri13 said:
Does that means light created matter and antimatter then why only matter is existing in our visible universe? And where is the rest of antimatter gone?

If you can answer that question then you'll win a nobel prize. :wink:

Shri13 said:
Also what's the proof that this matter which we see is "matter" and not the "anti matter"?

We have defined the matter we are made out of, which is also the dominant matter in the observable universe, to be 'normal matter' and the anti-particles of this matter to be 'anti-matter'. It's just convention, much like its convention to label electrons as having a negative charge and protons as having positive. It could easily be the reverse, but it wouldn't change anything.
 
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Shri13 said:
Does that means light created matter and antimatter then why only matter is existing in our visible universe? And where is the rest of antimatter gone??

This is known as the baryonic asymmetry - as yet, an unanswered question in physics. It has been proposed that massive bosons may have played a role in it, but no sound theories exist as of yet.
 

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