Current Direction at 'P' Point in a Transformer

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The discussion centers on the direction of current at point 'P' in a transformer, with a distinction made between DC and AC voltage. For DC, it is concluded that no current flows at point 'P' due to the lack of changing magnetic flux. In contrast, for AC, the current direction is to the right, influenced by the magnetic field created by the solenoids. The conversation also touches on Lenz's Law, which states that induced current opposes the change in magnetic flux, and the implications of Faraday's Law in this context. Ultimately, the participants seek clarification on the application of these laws in relation to the transformer’s operation.
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what will be the direction of current at 'P' point in the transformer?
 

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Since you have the symbol for DC voltage on your schematic, the answer is that there isn't a current there.

If you meant AC, to the right. Basically the second solenoid is an upside down version of the first, with magnetic field pointing down.
 
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But what will be the direction of current at point p
 
mishima said:
Since you have the symbol for DC voltage on your schematic, the answer is that there isn't a current there.

If you meant AC, to the right. Basically the second solenoid is an upside down version of the first, with magnetic field pointing down.

Can you tell the direction of current at point p?
 
Look up "Lenz law";

"An induced electromotive force (emf) always gives rise to a current whose magnetic field opposes the original change in magnetic flux."
 
So as per this definition the direction will be outside? Am I right?
 
outside what ?

did you understand mishima's comments in post 2 ?

that is did you really mean to show AC and not DC as you did ?

Dave
 
davenn said:
outside what ?

did you understand mishima's comments in post 2 ?

that is did you really mean to show AC and not DC as you did ?

Dave

On primary side the current in the coil is flowing in anti clock-wise direction, therefore the flux(mean flux path) will be upward in the first limb, but this same flux will be passing in the secondary side in the downward direction so how will we find the direction of current in it.
 
with the DC as you have shown, there will only be a very brief moment that current will flow in the secondary coil
and it will be in the opposite direction to the current flowing in the primary.
As soon as the current and hence the magnetic field in the primary reaches maximum ( and no longer varies)
current will stop flowing in the secondary.

Do you understand why?

Dave
 
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Ok fine but will happen if we take direct current?
 
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davenn said:
with the DC as yuo have shown, there will only be a very brief moment that current will flow in the secondary coil
and it will be in the opposite direction to the current flowing in the primary.
As soon as the current and hence the magnetic field in the primary reaches maximum ( and no longer varies)
current will stop flowing in the secondary.

Do you understand why?

Dave
View attachment New Doc 1.pdfyes, because in starting the voltage increases but when it reaches its maximum value then the changing flux saturates and therefore there is no rate of change of flux and hence current will stop flowing in the secondary.
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but my doubt is where we are using the Faraday's law in this case if i take the ac supply and the current and flux is as i shown in the attachment(let me know if it is wrong and why).
please elaborate and implement the Faraday's law in this figure.
 
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