Curved mirror identification & magnification question

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The discussion revolves around identifying the type of curved mirror and calculating the magnification based on the given parameters of an object and its image. The object is 5.0 cm tall, and the image is located 7.0 cm behind the mirror, with a radius of curvature of 10.0 cm.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the radius of curvature and focal length, questioning whether the focal length is positive or negative based on the type of mirror. There is discussion on the nature of the image being virtual and the implications for the type of mirror used.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, considering different scenarios for the focal length and the implications for the type of mirror. Some guidance has been offered regarding the characteristics of virtual images and how to approach the calculations for object positioning.

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There is uncertainty regarding the sign convention for the radius of curvature and focal length, as well as the specific type of mirror being used. The discussion includes references to visual examples of concave and convex mirrors.

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I can't seem to figure out whether I'm dealing with a + or - radius value. Anyways here's the question:
An object 5.0 cm tall produces an image that is 7.0 cm behind the mirror. If the radius of the curvature of this mirror is 10.0 cm, what is the magnification of the object? What kind of mirror is used?


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I'm guessing it is either a virtual erected concave larger image or virtual erected convex smaller image. How can I solve for M in a question like this to find whether it's larger or smaller :S?
 
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What is the focal length of the mirror?
Is the object closer or farther from the mirror than one focal length?
 
2 x focal length = radius.
so focal length is 10cm/2 = 5cm
However the confusing part for me is to find out whether the f is on the positive side or the negative side behind the mirror. Because you don't know what type of mirror right?

The only thing I know is that the object is right before it touches the mirror & it gives a virtual image because you have an image on the opposite side of the mirror. So I'm thinking the mirror is either like this http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/refln/u13l3d7.gif (concave virtual mirror) or it is like this http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/refln/u13l4a3.gif (convex virtual mirror)
 
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You know that the image is 7.00 cm behind the mirror. That means it is virtual. You also know the focal length. Why don't you try finding the position of the object with (a) positive curvature and (b) negative curvature. If it turns out that one of these is negative, then you know that it can't be right and the other one is.
 
hmm good point.
 
lynchdemartin said:
.. Or behind the mirror with the image between the mirror & the f point.
Don't be silly. When you look at yourself in a mirror (concave, convex or planar) is your face ever behind the mirror? :rolleyes:
 
anyways I think the answer is 2.4 magnification & it's a concave virtual larger image. Because like you said I shouldn't have a 2 negative d values. Thanks a lot for the help.
 

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