DC-DC power conversion and voltage regulators

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The discussion revolves around DC-DC power conversion and voltage regulators, specifically focusing on the efficiency and current behavior when stepping down voltage. Participants explore concepts related to voltage regulation, current increase, and the efficiency of different types of converters in various scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Ramone inquires about the behavior of current when stepping down voltage using DC-DC converters, suggesting that current will increase in such scenarios.
  • Bobbywhy emphasizes the importance of using agreed-upon terminology in electronics and notes that the increase in current depends on various factors, including load resistance and converter capacity.
  • Another participant agrees with Ramone's assertion about current increase but points out that power losses must be considered, asking for specific DC levels and currents of interest.
  • Ramone specifies the DC levels of interest as dropping from 9V to 6V and discusses the suitability of switching regulators for higher currents.
  • There is a suggestion that for lower currents, using a zener diode could be an alternative, though it may have similar efficiency losses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that stepping down voltage can lead to an increase in current, but there is no consensus on the efficiency of different methods or the specifics of implementation. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on terminology and the factors affecting current and efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity in terminology and acknowledge that efficiency can vary significantly based on the type of converter and specific circuit conditions. There are unresolved questions about the exact efficiency and performance of the proposed solutions.

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dear Experts

Voltage regulators maintain steady output voltage.
DC-DC step up or down converters (aka inverting switching regulators or boost converters) act like DC 'transformers'.

I like to confirm that when I step down voltage, the current will increase when i use either of them.

Which is more efficient in increasing the current for step-down scenarios?

Please could you comment on this?

Thanks very much.

Best regards
Ramone
 
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ramonegumpert said:
dear Experts

Voltage regulators maintain steady output voltage.
DC-DC step up or down converters (aka inverting switching regulators or boost converters) act like DC 'transformers'.
I like to confirm that when I step down voltage, the current will increase when i use either of them.
Which is more efficient in increasing the current for step-down scenarios?
Please could you comment on this?
Thanks very much.
Best regards
Ramone

Hi Ramone! Please refrain from inventing new terms like "DC transformers". To communicate clearly in the electronics world we all need to use the same terms with definitions agreed upon. This is how we avoid misunderstandings and miscommunications.

"A DC-to-DC converter is an electronic circuit which converts a source of direct current (DC) from one voltage level to another. It is a class of power converter."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter

As for increasing the current, that always depends on several variables, so it is impossible to directly answer your questiion. If we specify the load resistance, the converter's output capacity, etc., then we could begin to predict output current.

As for efficiency, some types are notorious for being inefficient, but used anyway for various reasons. In other cases like battery operated devices, different types are used because they are more efficient. Study the various types and their efficency.

And if you have any more questions or doubts, come right back here and post them.

Bobbywhy
 
ramonegumpert said:
I like to confirm that when I step down voltage, the current will increase when i use either of them.
In general that's true, though the circuit takes some power for its own use and to account for losses as heat. What DC levels are you interested in dropping from and to, and at what currents?
 
NascentOxygen said:
In general that's true, though the circuit takes some power for its own use and to account for losses as heat. What DC levels are you interested in dropping from and to, and at what currents?

Hello NascentOxygen

Thanks for your reply.
The DC levels I am interested in are :

From 9V DC to 6V DC.

Thanks!

Hi BobbyWhy
So sorry for using the wrong terms . I have noted and will refrain from using improper terms.
I did not mean to purposely confuse people. I am not very knowledgeable in this area.

Have a nice day.

regards
Ramone
 
ramonegumpert said:
Hi BobbyWhy
So sorry for using the wrong terms . I have noted and will refrain from using improper terms.
I did not mean to purposely confuse people. I am not very knowledgeable in this area.

Have a nice day.

regards
Ramone

Hey Ramone! Spoken like a true scientist or engineer!

Cheers, Bobbywhy
 
ramonegumpert said:
The DC levels I am interested in are :

From 9V DC to 6V DC.
If the current will be more than say, 100mA, then a switching regulator should do the job okay. For lesser currents, you could discard the excess using a 3V zener diode, this may be about as efficient (0.3W losses).
 
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