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DC Machine motor constant equation

  1. Sep 29, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    Given the no-load test results of a DC motor connected in shunt to be:
    Speed: 3000rpm
    Applied voltage: 239V
    Field current: 0.25A
    Calculate the motor constant K_m, where K_m = K


    2. Relevant equations
    not really sure about the equations to use
    i have these:
    Km = T/ SQRT(P)
    Km = Kt / SQRT(Rt)
    but not really sure how I can use these to help solve the problem.

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I'm sure it's just a matter of finding the right formula than just plugging the values in. So if someone can give me the correct equations it would be very helpful, thank you
     
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  3. Sep 30, 2012 #2
    ok I found this site which helped a lot, something about a conversion factor for the torque so i managed to get a bit further but im still confused about those two differing formulae

    T Nm * 3000RPM * 0.1047 (conversion factor) = P
    T * 3000 * 0.1047 = 239 * 0.25
    T = 59.75 / 314.1
    T = 0.190226 Nm

    Km = T/ SQRT(P)
    Km = 0.190226 / SQRT(239 * 0.25)
    Km = 0.02461

    OR
    Km = Kt / SQRT(Rt)
    Kt = T/I
    R = v/i ???
    Km = (0.190226/0.25) / SQRT(1436)
    km = 0.0200795

    these two values are very similar
    just wondering if the methods are correct
     
  4. Sep 30, 2012 #3

    CWatters

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    I'm a bit rusty but I'd look at the speed equation.

    N = K × Eb ÷ f

    Not sure if/how you calculate the flux f but perhaps it's enough to say

    N = K_m x Ev

    where k_m = K/f ???

    I think the flux f is fairly constant due to high resistance of the windings.
     
  5. Sep 30, 2012 #4

    CWatters

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    Deleted.
     
  6. Sep 30, 2012 #5
    not sure about those formulas

    is this working right?

    E_a = (k_m)(W_m)
    V_T = E_a + (I_a)(R_a)
    No load test, therefore I_a = 0
    Therefore E_a = V_T
    V_T/Wm = k_m
    k_m = 239/(3000*(1/60)*2pi = 0.76
     
  7. Sep 30, 2012 #6

    rude man

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    What is your definition of "the motor constant"?
     
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