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Death is

  1. Oblivion

    66 vote(s)
    32.4%
  2. A Portal Mystery

    6 vote(s)
    2.9%
  3. A Chance to Roam the Earth

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Another Chance at Reincarnation

    3 vote(s)
    1.5%
  5. My Ticket to Nirvana

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  6. A Gateway to Heaven or Hell

    18 vote(s)
    8.8%
  7. A Transition to Another Simulation

    14 vote(s)
    6.9%
  8. A Bridge to Another Realm

    14 vote(s)
    6.9%
  9. I Honestly Don't Know

    55 vote(s)
    27.0%
  10. I Don't Know and I Don't Care

    27 vote(s)
    13.2%
  1. Sep 23, 2006 #1
    Option 11: I'd rather not think about it
    Option 12: _________ (fill in the blank)

    The options above influence our expectations of everlasting life in this world; those options that presume to hold any promise of life beyond death weaken the motivation to seek effective solutions to (1) optimal health, (2) "successful" aging, and (3) dramatic life and health extension. The assumption of oblivion after we die is, for many, a tough one to swallow. And yet, a belief or conviction in the value of life shaped by this assumption is much stronger for having been shaped by it. If you feel there's another option worthy of mention, please indicate it, but give us a sense of where you think you're going, or what you think will happen, when (or after) you die.

    I saw a similar thread on another forum and most people were voting for "oblivion" which is not too surprising, seeing as that is the most natural response once would elicit from himself if he looks deep enough into the mystery...

    Let's see how it stacks up here.
     
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  3. Sep 25, 2006 #2
    is this a continuation of your "why am i here question"?
     
  4. Sep 27, 2006 #3
    I've chosen the option for 'The gateway to another realm' but I belive that we are not living in the reality in this world hence a gateway to the realm...
     
  5. Oct 3, 2006 #4

    rsd

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    option 12: I have an idea and i don't care.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2007 #5
    If you define death as cessation of brain activity then there is nothing after death. After death there is total blackness, just as before we were born. However i do believe in an afterlife. Reincarnation seems believable to me. The world isn't all science, science can't even explain some things such as what started the universe before the big bang and where the universe came from. The original particles couldn't have just been there. Matter can't come from nowhere, it must be created. So either God who is eternal created matter or it was always there so matter is eternal.
     
  7. Jul 4, 2007 #6

    cristo

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    What do you mean by that?
    Well, the current models of the universe cannot explain this, no.

    Why do you insist on pushing this "afterlife" theory of yours? There's a reason all your threads on it get deleted!
     
  8. Jul 4, 2007 #7

    russ_watters

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    Since this is a science forum, I'm surprised you didn't include the science answer: an end to life. As X-43D says, it is measured as from where brain activity stops.
     
  9. Jul 4, 2007 #8

    baywax

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    Lucky option 11: "other"
     
  10. Jul 17, 2007 #9
    Death is... Never having to say your sorry.

    As an agnostic I lean towards the idea that worm food is what I will be when I die, no soul, no after life.

    However it doesn't bother me, it simply teaches me to appreciate the life I have now and make the most of it, because this is the show, and there are no repeat performances :smile:

    If anyone's interested in learning the absurdity of meaning of existence and the futility of religion in explaining life and how to cope with the pointlessness that is existence, they should read Camus: The Myth of Sysiphus

    Great piece of philosophy, the atheists guide to life and death :smile:

    I shall tell you a great secret, my friend. Do not wait for the last judgment, it takes place every day

    If there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life.

    Albert Camus
     
  11. Jul 17, 2007 #10
    Death is...

    the Great Equalizer


    (well, that's what Houdini told me the other day)
     
  12. Jul 21, 2007 #11
    Currently I hold that life, consciousness and self awareness changes its energy form when we die.
    There's currently no agreed upon scientific theory that states that consciousness carries on or that there is something more after death, but I'm not one to say that this means something more than just that, but I'm open for suggestions.

    In other words; oblivion.
     
  13. Jul 25, 2007 #12
    I would have voted oblivion- but that isn't possible according to the implications of the Quantum Immortality conjecture and the Simulation Hypothesis- as long as an organism is a finite construct of matter- no matter how complex- it must be archeologically reconstructed eventually in a multiverse or spatially infinite universe- http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302131 - and artificial simulations must statistically outnumber 'natural'/accidental worlds http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html- so I voted for transition to another simulation- although that is necissarily vague- you might as well say I don't know- except that non-existence is not logically possible unless an observer's state is not a physically realizable state of matter- but then there would be no observer in the first place
     
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  14. Jul 25, 2007 #13

    berkeman

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    Currently, oblivion. But I believe that if we are smart enough, we may be able to extend our intellectual life beyond our bilogical death. We have to figure out a lot about how the brain works, though, before we can try to figure out how to make "backups" of our individual brains, and how then to give those backups intellectual lifes of their own.

    What was the science fiction book that talked about this? Dang, it's been forever since I read it. Don't think I finished it, actually.....
     
  15. Jul 25, 2007 #14
    nearly every book/story on this list deals with the many implications of uploading/copies/immortality/augemtation/etc: post singularity space opera
     
  16. Jul 25, 2007 #15

    berkeman

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    Hmmm. Interesting genre, but not what I was referring to. Now I'm going to have to go look for that book that I started.... :blushing:
     
  17. Jul 25, 2007 #16
    I am a careful agnostic, so I will say that I do not know. Believing in the certainty anything is faith; atheism is faith.
     
  18. Jul 25, 2007 #17
    Why isn't there a "scaring the hell out of me" option?
     
  19. Jul 25, 2007 #18

    Evo

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    Atheism isn't faith. It's a term made up to label people that don't buy into religion or gods. For exmple, Joe believes invisible creatures roam the planet, I ignore Joe's belief, it doesn't take any faith to ignore something I don't care about.
     
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  20. Jul 25, 2007 #19
    The general definition of agnosticism is that one is sure that 'one can never find out anything about the reality of x'. That, if anything, requires faith. Of course you can label it as 'weak agnosticism' which is basically 'I don't know right now'.
     
  21. Jul 25, 2007 #20
    But an atheist asserts that deities do not exist. The atheist takes a position, just like the believer.
     
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