Decelerating warp drives: How to detect them?

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The discussion centers around the hypothetical detection of decelerating warp drives in a universe where such drives exist. Participants explore potential astronomical observations that could indicate the presence of these drives, considering the implications of radiation emissions and the characteristics of the observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a sudden burst of light could be observed, potentially accompanied by gamma or X-ray emissions, as the image of the ship appears with a blue-shifted after-image diverging away.
  • Another participant questions the visibility of the ship's image, proposing that if the deceleration occurs too far away, observers might only notice unusual phenomena rather than the ship itself, and they might be at risk from radiation if the deceleration happens too close.
  • A different viewpoint posits that a flash of extremely high energy gamma rays could be expected, but it may be distinguishable from typical gamma-ray bursts (GRBs) in terms of power.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the observations and the implications of radiation, indicating that multiple competing ideas remain without consensus.

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Assumptions about the nature of warp drives, the distance of deceleration events, and the characteristics of radiation emissions are not fully explored, leaving gaps in the discussion.

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Hello everybody,

A few years ago, there were speculations in the pop science media that decelerating warp drives might emit huge amounts of radiation at the target location.

Now, let's assume a universe where warp drives really work: I was thinking about a plot where astronomers in such a universe make some observations, and it turns out that these observations are actually decelerating warp drives.

In such a universe, what would be plausible candidates for astronomic observations that could turn out as decelerating warp drives? Could it be just an "ordinary" gamma ray burst or would we expect some other kind of observation in such a scenario?Robert
 
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I think the most plausible observation to be seen would be that there's a sudden burst of light, as the image of the ship suddenly appears with a blue-shifted after-image diverging away from it back along it's former approach path--this could have some gamma or Xray burst accompanying it, depending on the nature of the FTL drive used.

But such image might only be visible along a very narrow cone pointing away from the direction of the ship's approach--which may make it difficult for a prewarp culture to detect such arrivals. Perhaps it is detected first by their versions of Voyager/Pioneer or such?
 
Ryuu said:
I think the most plausible observation to be seen would be that there's a sudden burst of light, as the image of the ship suddenly appears

I was assuming that the observers cannot actually see the "image of the ship", because the warp drive deceleration takes place too far away from them, or the ship is simply too small, but still they might be able to observe something unsual. Because if this deceleration takes place too close to the observers, then I guess they would simply die of radiation.
 
I would image there would be a flash of extremely high energy gamma ray, however, I don't think it would compare to the power of nature, so it'd be distinguishable from a "normal" GRB.
 

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