Decoherence and apparent collapse

  • #51
kith said:
I was talking about the reduced density matrices of the individual particles which can be written in this form.

You get a reduced matrix when you trace out unobservable degrees of freedom. Both particles are observable in EPR, so tracing out one of the particles to get a reduced matrix for the other particle is throwing away information.
 
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  • #52
stevendaryl said:
Both particles are observable in EPR, so tracing out one of the particles to get a reduced matrix for the other particle is throwing away information.
Agreed. But then what are your objections to my post #46? My point was very similar to yours: that we cannot interpret the reduced density matrix of an entangled state as a proper mixture. So your answer to my question there seems to be yes.
 
  • #53
stevendaryl said:
In the case of an entangled pair of particles, you CAN'T write the density matrix in the form \sum_i p_i |\psi_i\rangle \langle \psi_i|. The state of an entangled pair is \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|U, D \rangle - |D,U\rangle). If you form the density matrix, you get:
\frac{1}{2}(|U,D\rangle \langle U, D| - |U,D\rangle \langle D, U| - |D, U\rangle\langle U, D| + |D,U\rangle\langle D,U|
Every density matrix ##\rho##, and hence in particular yours, can be written in the stated form, by taking the ##\psi_i## as an orthonormal basis of eigenvectors of ##\rho##. One gets mixed terms only if one insists on choosing a particular basis. In the case of a pure state, as in your example, the sum consists of a single term only.
 
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