Deflection of beam after reaching elastic limit

AI Thread Summary
Deflection calculations for beams consider geometry and Young's modulus, which is valid only up to the elastic limit. Once the stress exceeds this limit, the material behavior becomes nonlinear, complicating calculations. Engineers typically avoid factoring in this nonlinearity by designing beams to remain within yield limits. Cold working can harden specific regions of the beam, increasing brittleness and risk of catastrophic failure. For accurate assessments beyond the elastic limit, consulting stress-strain diagrams or conducting sample tests is recommended.
k.udhay
Messages
167
Reaction score
13
Hi,

When we find out the deflection of beam, the factors considered are its geometry (moment of inertia) and young's modulus (E) of the material. As per text Hook's law 'E' is constant only till the elastic limit of the material. Assuming that the stress induced crosses the elastic limit, 'E' is no more valid. How do we take this effect in the calculation, if the stress is above elastic limit? Thanks.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
In engineering, normally you don't. There's not a really good way to factor that into your formulas, so you should design the beam (or alter the loading condition) to something that won't induce a stress over the yield stress of the beam.

After the yield point, it starts to become nonlinear and there isn't a good way to account for that without really taking multiple things into account. In essence, you're cold working the beam by yielding it and making it harder, but only in certain regions. The more you cold work it, the harder and more brittle it becomes in those spots. After a while, cracks are induced and the beam catastrophically fails. The stress-strain curves for a specific material can help you determine how it will generally behave, but then it's also entirely dependent on how your sample was manufactured and any heat treatment it received. As well, if there are any inclusions in your specific batch of material, it could also affect its behavior.

So, short answer: we try not to take that into consideration. If you feel you need to do so, consult the stress-strain diagrams or do your own sample testing.
 
In general, you just have a statics or dynamics problem with nonlinear material behavior, and you have to solve it numerically.

A special case is for elastic - perfectly plastic materials, where the stress strain curve is modeled as two straight line segments. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_hinge
 
timthereaper said:
In engineering, normally you don't. There's not a really good way to factor that into your formulas, so you should design the beam (or alter the loading condition) to something that won't induce a stress over the yield stress of the beam.

After the yield point, it starts to become nonlinear and there isn't a good way to account for that without really taking multiple things into account. In essence, you're cold working the beam by yielding it and making it harder, but only in certain regions. The more you cold work it, the harder and more brittle it becomes in those spots. After a while, cracks are induced and the beam catastrophically fails. The stress-strain curves for a specific material can help you determine how it will generally behave, but then it's also entirely dependent on how your sample was manufactured and any heat treatment it received. As well, if there are any inclusions in your specific batch of material, it could also affect its behavior.

So, short answer: we try not to take that into consideration. If you feel you need to do so, consult the stress-strain diagrams or do your own sample testing.

Thank you, Tim. So, it's safe to keep the component within its yield limit.
 
AlephZero said:
In general, you just have a statics or dynamics problem with nonlinear material behavior, and you have to solve it numerically.

A special case is for elastic - perfectly plastic materials, where the stress strain curve is modeled as two straight line segments. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_hinge

Thanks, Aleph. :)
 
How did you find PF?: Via Google search Hi, I have a vessel I 3D printed to investigate single bubble rise. The vessel has a 4 mm gap separated by acrylic panels. This is essentially my viewing chamber where I can record the bubble motion. The vessel is open to atmosphere. The bubble generation mechanism is composed of a syringe pump and glass capillary tube (Internal Diameter of 0.45 mm). I connect a 1/4” air line hose from the syringe to the capillary The bubble is formed at the tip...
Thread 'Physics of Stretch: What pressure does a band apply on a cylinder?'
Scenario 1 (figure 1) A continuous loop of elastic material is stretched around two metal bars. The top bar is attached to a load cell that reads force. The lower bar can be moved downwards to stretch the elastic material. The lower bar is moved downwards until the two bars are 1190mm apart, stretching the elastic material. The bars are 5mm thick, so the total internal loop length is 1200mm (1190mm + 5mm + 5mm). At this level of stretch, the load cell reads 45N tensile force. Key numbers...
I'd like to create a thread with links to 3-D Printer resources, including printers and software package suggestions. My motivations are selfish, as I have a 3-D printed project that I'm working on, and I'd like to buy a simple printer and use low cost software to make the first prototype. There are some previous threads about 3-D printing like this: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/are-3d-printers-easy-to-use-yet.917489/ but none that address the overall topic (unless I've missed...
Back
Top