Demonstrate that Cv depends only on temperature

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The discussion centers on the heat capacity at constant volume (Cv) and its dependence on temperature. It is established that Cv can be expressed as Cv = δQv/dT = (∂U/∂T)v, and for ideal monatomic gases, Cv is constant at low pressures, specifically 3/2 NkB. The participants clarify that while Cv is influenced by the nature of the gas, it primarily depends on temperature in the ideal gas region, particularly at low pressures. The relationship between Cv and temperature can be mathematically demonstrated using the equation of state for the gas.

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Hello,

I stumbled upon this question and I don't know how to answer it...

I know that Cv is defined as Cv = δQv/dT = (∂U/∂T)v but I thought it's value was determined by the nature of the gas only (3/2 for monoatomic and 5/2 for diatomic).

Can someone help me figure this out ?
 
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but I thought it's value was determined by the nature of the gas only (3/2 for monoatomic and 5/2 for diatomic).
The 5/2 is not valid in the whole temperature range, as it does not take vibrations into account.
 
Ok, but do you have any idea of how I could prove that it depends only on temperature ? (other than experimentally)
I can't seem to find anything about this on the internet or my textbook.
 
mwa1 said:
I can't seem to find anything about this on the internet or my textbook.

That's strange. I typed "Cv depends only on temperature" into Google and got lots of explanations.
 
Well I haven't. I wouldn't bother posting and waiting for an answer if I had found something convincing...

As I understand it, Internal Energy is defined as (for monatomic gases) the mean Kinetic Energy of all molecules and Temperature is a measurement of it :

Nm<v2>/2 = U = 3NkBT/2

and Cv is just 3NkB/2

Cv can always be written in terms of U and T but then how do I get rid of the U ?
 
Cv does not depend only on temperature. It also depends on pressure, as does U. If you are focusing exclusively on gases, then Cv depends only on temperature in the limit of very low pressures. This is what we call the ideal gas region. At higher pressures, Cv depends on pressure.

Chet
 
mwa1 said:
Hello,

I stumbled upon this question and I don't know how to answer it...

I know that Cv is defined as Cv = δQv/dT = (∂U/∂T)v but I thought it's value was determined by the nature of the gas only (3/2 for monoatomic and 5/2 for diatomic).

Can someone help me figure this out ?
It is an empirical fact that for all gases at low pressures Cv depends only on temperature. But in order to show mathematically the relationship between Cv and temperature for a particular gas you would need to know the equation of state for the gas. For an ideal monatomic gas, Cv is constant:

PV=nRT

dQ/dT = d/dT(U + PdV)

(dQ/dT)V = (dU/dT)V = Cv

From Kinetic Theory, U = 3nRT/2. So (dU/dT)V = 3nR/2 = Cv = constant

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