Derivation of fluctuations in canonical ensemble

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The forum discussion centers on deriving fluctuations in the canonical ensemble as presented in Problem 3.1 of "Statistical Mechanics" by Pathria. The key equations involved are <(△nr)2>=-2=(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)lnΓ and =wrd/dwr(lnΓ). Participants emphasize the necessity of providing complete problem statements and showing prior attempts to solve the equations to facilitate assistance. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the context of the equations and adhering to forum guidelines for effective collaboration.

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Homework Statement


Statistical Mechanics by Pathria. Problem 3.1

Homework Equations


(1)
<(△nr)2>=<nr2>-<nr>2=(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)lnΓ, for all wr=1

How to derive above equation from these equations?
<nr>=wrd/dwr(lnΓ), for all wr=1
<nr2>=(1/Γ)(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)Γ, for all wr=1

(2)
Also, if you have the textbook,
How can I derive equations (3.2.39) and (3.2.40) from equations (3.2.37) and (3.2.38)

The Attempt at a Solution


It may look so easy for you guys, but I cannot even start solving these problems since I'm not good at calculus...
 
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Hello Fliers, and welcome to PF :-)

Your chances of getting assistance improve if you provide the problem statement. At the moment you only target those of us who
1 ignore the forum rules (read the guidelines to find out which one(s)**)
2 have the book AND the same edition

Mine says "(a) Derive formula (3.2.37) from eqns (3.2.14) and (3.2.36)"
But then, I have a first edition...
(So happens your equation 1 is indeed his 3.2.37, but before I invest more time in this, I do want to be 100% sure I'm not answering the wrong question. In other words: the full rendering, please.

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So far for following forum rules. Suppose you had stated:

Homework Statement



Derive
<(△nr)2>=<nr2>-<nr>2=(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)lnΓ, for all wr=1

from
< nr>=wrd/dwr(lnΓ), for all wr=1
< nr2>=(1/Γ)(wrd/dwr)(wrd/dwr)Γ, for all wr=1​

Then you would still have to have to explain "all ##\omega's=1##" because that is not what it seems!

Even then you would still also have to provide some relevant equations (to make the steps required). Take your pick from 3.2.1 to 3.2.35 and perhaps a few earlier ones as well!

Even then I could only go ahead if you would also have shown what you tried so far: the guidelines require you to show your efforts. "I cannot even start" simply isn't good enough. Not being good a calculus is a nice modest statement, but it doesn't tell me what you can or can not digest.

So sorry. :-(

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**) hint: about rendering the problem statement is not the only one. Something about showing your work, too. Or do you want us to begin with 1+1=2, since you might be totally unknowing ?
 

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