Derivations of the motion equations

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the motion equations in kinematics, specifically focusing on the algebraic manipulation required to arrive at the final equation. The original poster is attempting to reconcile their notes with the algebraic steps necessary for the derivation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster describes their attempts to substitute and expand terms in the equations but encounters difficulties with the algebraic simplification. They specifically question how to combine certain fractions correctly to reach the final form of the equation.

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Participants are providing feedback on the original poster's algebraic steps, with some suggesting that skipping steps may lead to mistakes. Others point out potential errors in the expansion of terms, indicating that the discussion is focused on clarifying these algebraic manipulations.

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There is an emphasis on careful step-by-step derivation to avoid errors, and participants are addressing specific algebraic challenges without providing direct solutions.

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Practicing the derivations of the Motion Equations, and I am looking through my notes that I transcribed from my professor...Im getting caught up on one spot.

Im getting all the equations to "pop out" except for this last one, which, I can see; but, the algebra is throwing me off...

Finishing off with these as the fundamentals to get the last derivation:

[tex] x=v_0 + at ; t= \frac{v-v_0}{a} ; x=x_0 + v_0 t + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

Substituting the new t value into the latter equation and expanding...

[tex] x= x_0 + \frac{v_0 v}{a} - \frac{v_0^2}{a} + \frac{v^2}{2a} - \frac{v_0^2}{2a} - \frac{v_0 v}{a}[/tex]

I can't seem to get the fractions to add and subtract out in the right way so that I can get the final equation of

[tex] x= x_0 + \frac{1}{2a}(v^2 - v_0^2)[/tex]

Specifically I can't get the -v(initial)^2/a and the -v(initial)^2/2a to add up so that I can factor (in the final equation) out the 1/2. I know I am doing something absent minded. Can somebody please point it out? Thank you in advance for any pointers.
 
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try not to skip steps =P it makes it really easy to make mistakes with signs
 
mateomy said:
[tex] x= x_0 + \frac{v_0 v}{a} - \frac{v_0^2}{a} + \frac{v^2}{2a} - \frac{v_0^2}{2a} - \frac{v_0 v}{a}[/tex]
Looks like you messed up the expansion of the t2 term. (You have an extra minus sign on one of the terms.)
 
Doc Al said:
Looks like you messed up the expansion of the t2 term. (You have an extra minus sign on one of the terms.)

Okay, I'll recheck that expansion. Thanks!
 

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