Derivative of inverse tangent function

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function tan^{-1}(3sinx/(4+5cosx)). The initial calculations for U' and 1+U^2 were presented, but confusion arose regarding simplification. Participants suggested that the expression could be simplified further and pointed out errors in the original calculations. Ultimately, through collaborative effort, a simplified derivative of 3/(5+4cosx) was reached, with encouragement to rest for better clarity. The thread highlights the importance of peer support in solving calculus problems.
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Homework Statement



Find derivative of tan^{-1}(\frac{3sinx}{4+5cosx})

Homework Equations



deriviative of tan^{-1}=\frac{U'}{1+U^{2}}

The Attempt at a Solution



I found U'= \frac{12cosx+15}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}

1+U^{2}=1+\frac{9sin^{2}x}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}


I think my components are correct but my answer is still incorrect. Are these basic components even correct (if so I can proceed on my own from here)?

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hi biochem850! :smile:

looks ok so far
 
How do you then simplify:

\frac{U'}{1+U^{2}}?

I've tried to simplify this but with no luck.
 
Can someone please help me?
 
hi biochem850! :wink:

(just got up :zzz:)

well, the (4 + 5cosx)2 should cancel and disappear …

show us your full calculations, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
\frac{12cosx+15}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}*1+\frac{(4+5cosx)^{2}}{9sin^{2}x}=

\frac{12cosx+15(9sin^{2}x)+(4+5cosx)^{2}(4+5cosx)^{2}}{(4+5cosx)^{2}(9sin^{2}x)}

I'm not sure this is correct.
 
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hmm :rolleyes: … let's use tex instead of itex, to make it bigger :wink:
biochem850 said:
\frac{12cosx+15}{(4+5cosx)^{2}} \left(1+\frac{(4+5cosx)^{2}}{9sin^{2}x}\right)=

\frac{12cosx+15}{9sin^{2}x}=\frac{3(4cosx+5)}{9sin^{2}x}

no, that first line is wrong,

the bracket is 1 + 1/U2, it should be 1/(1 + U2)
 
tiny-tim said:
hmm :rolleyes: … let's use tex instead of itex, to make it bigger :wink:

no, that first line is wrong,

the bracket is 1 + 1/U2, it should be 1/(1 + U2)

I changed my work just before you posted
 
biochem850 said:
I changed my work just before you posted

but you didn't change the bit i said was wrong :confused:
 
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tiny-tim said:
but you didn't change the bit i said was wrong :confused:

\frac{12cosx+15}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}\frac{(4+5cosx)^{2}+1}{9sin^{2}x+1}=


\frac{12cosx+15}{9sin^{2}x+1}
I'm not sure this is correct. I really don't understand what you asked me to change.
 
  • #11
change your original …
biochem850 said:
1+\frac{9sin^{2}x}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}

… to something with (4 + 5cosx)2 on the bottom
 
  • #12
tiny-tim said:
change your original …

… to something with (4 + 5cosx)2 on the bottom



\frac{(4+5cosx)^{2}+9sin^{2}x}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}?
 
  • #13
biochem850 said:
\frac{(4+5cosx)^{2}+9sin^{2}x}{(4+5cosx)^{2}}?

yup! :smile:

now turn that upside-down, and multiply, and the (4 + 5cosx)2 should cancel :wink:
 
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\frac{12cosx+15}{(4+5cosx)^{2}+9sin^{2}x}

In terms of finding the derivative I know I've found it but this can be simplified further.

I don't know if I'm tired or what because I cannot seem to do these very simple problems. This does not bode well for my calculus mark. Would you factor out a 3 in the numerator and then see what will simplify?
 
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biochem850 said:
Would you factor out a 3 in the numerator and then see what will simplify?

no, and i'd be very surprised if this simplifies

(except that you could get rid of the sin2 by using cos2 + sin2 = 1 :wink:)

get some sleep! :zzz:​
 
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tiny-tim said:
no, and i'd be very surprised if this simplifies

(except that you could get rid of the sin2 by using cos2 + sin2 = 1 :wink:)

get some sleep! :zzz:​

Through some weird algebraic manipulation I simplified down to \frac{3}{5+4cosx}. I believe this is correct. I'm going to sleep.:smile:

Thanks so much!
 

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