Derivative of Trigonometric Expression: y' = -cos2x | Derivative Help #2

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The problem involves finding the derivative of a trigonometric expression given by y = (sin²x)/(1 + ctgx) + (cos²x)/(1 + ctgx). The original poster states that the answer is -cos2x but is unable to arrive at this conclusion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original expression and identify a potential mistake in the denominator of the second term, suggesting it should be tangent instead of cotangent. There is also mention of simplifying the expression before differentiation as a means to avoid errors.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out the incorrect setup of the problem and suggested simplifications that could lead to a clearer path for differentiation. There is recognition of the need for careful attention to the function's structure before proceeding with differentiation.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of using cotangent versus tangent in the expression, and there is an emphasis on the importance of simplification in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement



y= \frac{sin^2 x}{1+ ctgx} +\frac{cos^2 x}{1+ ctgx}

Find: y'

The Attempt at a Solution



Answer is-cos2x but again I can't find it.

Where am I making a mistake?

y'=(\ \frac{sin^2 x}{1+ ctgx} +\frac{cos^2 x}{1+ ctgx} \ )'= \frac{(sin^2 x)'(1+ ctgx) -( sin^2 x) (1+ ctgx)'}{(1+ ctgx)^2}\ + \ \frac{(cos^2 x)'(1+ tgx) - cos^2 x (1+ tgx)'}{(1+ tgx)^2} =


<br /> = \frac{sin2x( 1+ctgx) +1 }{(1+ ctgx)^2} +\frac{-sin2x(1+tgx)-1}{(1+ tgx)^2}<br />
 
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Well the denominator in the second term goes from being 1 + ctgx to being 1 + tgx.
 
The only mistake you've made so far is the function y you gave us. The denominator of the second term should have a tangent, not a cotangent. You have done this correctly during your differentiation. I am afraid it's just a matter of simplification now by using trig identities.
 
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Concerning the problem you posted (which is apparently not the right problem), for future reference you could have made life easier by doing some simplification before doing the differentiation.
y= \frac{sin^2 x}{1+ ctgx} +\frac{cos^2 x}{1+ ctgx}
\Leftrightarrow y = \frac{sin^2 x + cos^2 x}{1+ ctgx}
\Leftrightarrow y = \frac{1}{1+ ctgx}
Now you have a much simpler expression to differentiate, which makes it less likely that you'll make errors.
 
Yes, it's my mistake. Denominator of the second term is tangent.
 
Lynne said:
Yes, it's my mistake. Denominator of the second term is tangent.
Right, I got that. The point of my post was that you made the (incorrect) problem harder than you needed to by not simplifying first. Always try to do things the simplest way you can get away with.
 

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